" Everyone is in agreement for this, but since its farming, is that abuse? "

You asked, some people responded.  No drama really.  No one told you that
you can't do as you like on your server, it just seems like it could be
construed as 'cheating/abuse.'  Obviously [your method] is possible, so
unless it's an oversight (possible) then maybe it's known and they don't
care (also possible.)  If they don't care, then nothing we say matters for
fuckall anyway.

Oh wait, nothing we say matters for fuckall regardless!

Other than your original question as to whether or not what you're doing may
be abuse, it sounds like your server is up and running ok so I guess this
thread can die.


On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Crazed Gunman
<[email protected]>wrote:

> **
> God could there have been a better way to drama bomb the mailing list? I
> don't think I've ever seen anything elicit such responses. I was simply
> saying, its a public server, anyone can join, we are keeping out the people
> with the mathacks, and distributing items to everyone.
>
>
> On 10/28/2011 10:39 PM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:
>
> yeah, well, its exactly why the drop system is only dependent on being
> connected to a server, and nothing else...
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Noel <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 29 October 2011, 4:56
> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting
> tool
>
> Gotta say, I don't really care what you do with your server (although that
> approach does sound a wee-bit exploitative -- and potentially lucrative
> considering what some of the event items seem to sell for) but I got a
> chuckle out of "so everyone gets their fair share" when discussing a means
> of gaming the system.
>
>  Also liked the "especially since other people are cheating worse" part.
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Crazed Gunman <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>  I have a server right now that I have several people on, running
> viaduct_event, and what we've been doing is noclipping to the gifts and
> handing them out to everyone evenly; my problem is that this could qualify
> as farming, but we're doing it for everyone evenly so everyone gets their
> fair share, especially since some people have material hacks from last year
> already for the giftbox model and instantly get to it. Everyone is in
> agreement for this, but since its farming, is that abuse?
>
> On 10/28/2011 6:45 PM, Emil Larsson wrote:
>
> I'd say it would be the nature of the server. A server that mostly attract
> lulzy players who don't mind/expects this kind of stuff? Sure. Average
> servers, no.
>
> Personally though, I wouldn't risk giving my players heart attacks. ;)
>
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:48 AM, msleeper 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> Would running this plugin count as abuse?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVL_Xwx4LW0
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, msleeper <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure the report tool is meant to be used for servers that
> > are deliberately breaking the established rules of game events and the
> > like. Not "I don't like the way this server is run" or "they do things
> > that I, personally, find annoying".
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Jethro Seabridge <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> How about servers that embrace micspam - music played over the mic?
> >> - Jethro
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Fletcher Dunn
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think the best answer there is that we would probably use the abuse
> >>> reporting mechanism as one tool to try to measure what sort of impact
> this
> >>> sort of thing has on our community.
> >>>
> >>> - Fletch
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bp
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:11 PM
> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting
> >>> tool
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 22:31, Benedict Glover
> >>> <[email protected]> asked:
> >>> > I'm not personally going to report these but what about servers that
> >>> > offer over powered weapons if you pay real money? (Premium Servers
> >>> > (Nightteam))
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it's fair to name names in such a discussion, especially
> >>> when Valve can't answer lacking data on how many people elect to
> >>> report such servers over a fairly long period of time - the main
> >>> metric being looked at right now.
> >>>
> >>> --bp is not affiliated with any such server
> >>>
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