By the same logic, you've already paid for your tv, why should you have to watch ads in your tv shows? You've already paid for your internet connection, why should you have to see ads anywhere online?
Or are you already campaigning against both of those as well, when you know full well that you're using what you've paid for to receive a SERVICE which has seen exactly ZERO of the money you spent on the initial product? If we lived in a magical fairy-land, then yes, everyone could afford to run based on donations alone. Welcome to the real world, where that is not the case. Especially for communities that are just starting up or looking for some extra funds to expand or do stuff for their members. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/7/13, Saint K. <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: [hlds] An open letter to Valve about MOTDs To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" <[email protected]> Received: Thursday, November 7, 2013, 4:24 PM Forced in-game ads are evil. You’ve already paid for the game, why watch ads? There never was such a problem until quickplay and motd allowing video. Build a good community and likable servers, and you shall have your money through donations. We haven’t done it any differently in the past 15 years and we’re still doing so today. People are willing to donate bits for a fun community to play at who has their own servers up and running. The whole problem here is quickplay, you have tons of people roaming around random servers without an real good opportunity to bind them to your community. Before people would search for likable servers and add them to their favorites. These people would then return and start to get familiar with other people at the servers. This allowed for great community building. Unfortunately I don’t expect VALVe ever to turn off quickplay. That’s why I think communities will slowly start to die out. I can remember days where 90% of the players in a server had a clan/community tag In front of their name, nowadays you barely ever see them. Saint K.From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Supreet Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [hlds] An open letter to Valve about MOTDs Valve,Listen. People make good money off of running their TF2 servers. Moreover, it helps them pay for the servers. Why don't you just take all our liberty away, pull an EA and cut dedicated servers and host them all yourself?Quickplay has only been beneficial to free to play players or what I like to call "Window Gamers". They try a game because its free then after a while they leave the game because they're bored of hopping on random servers through quick play and finding ads everywhere.The liberty and freedom of browsing through a server list was an amazing idea so you should keep to it.Your quick play scoring system is pretty stupid and flawed. Why? Because its HEAVILY BIASED.Over time, there's just been servers that get a behemoth influx of players and and the quick play system starts favoring them. Therefore, ignoring the possibility of any potentially better servers people might like if they ended up on them.You should really consider stopping your shenanigans. You can't make up your own mind Valve. You released an update months ago with vague release notes about the removal of HTML motds then you modified it and now you just released another update. If you really cared about the game server operators, you would remove this bs "tweak" and give server operators the liberty to use methods to recovery money to cover costs and pocket money for their efforts.ORBuild a better dedicated server that doesn't eat up so many resources so server operators don't have to pay $30 a month for a single server to a hosting company. There are communities that run great servers and multiple of them. Imagine the frikkin cost of servers Skial has to deal with, with their massive 80 something servers. These ads help pay for these expensive DDoS protected servers hosted by big communities.A lot of concerned people have offered their tiny bits of tweaks and solutions to your update but it will never stop. Either pull an EA and remove MOTDs overall, doom us all so we can get some closure and move on LOL or let server operators have the freedom to run their server the way they want.Why don't you just work with the ad companies and get them to make a variable that tells the quickplay system read if the server is ad enabled, or maybe through sv_tags and DEDUCT score off of quickplay.It'll make all the complaining kids happy. 50% less chance I'll end up on an ad enabled server.Many thanks and regards.Please contribute to this discussion in a professional and cognitively inclined manner and refrain from being monkeys yelling at each other on the mailing list. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
