Unfortunately Valve will probably just remain silent on this topic and just wait for it to go quiet until the next time someone brings it up. Sadly it does strongly seem they're doing subtle changes to the game which push it more towards official servers and therefore killing community servers little by little. After all, two years down the road and no official comments to anyone's complaint here. I'm not sure what we can do to change their mindset towards this, if anything. Obviously one of the major elements of this game, creativity, will suffer when (not if) the day arrives that there's hardly any community run servers online anymore. To use a phrase from Star Trek, "we are Valve, your communities will be assimilated and will adapt to serve us, resistance is futile" :P. Hehe.
The modified screenshot earlier on, that's the best idea yet and should be considered strongly by Valve! Come on, give us a sign that you still care about the community that helped towards making the game what it is today! I'd like to be proven wrong however, this time. On 2 July 2015 at 23:56, Brandon Mulligan <bmul...@gmail.com> wrote: > Create a filter in gmail that dumps @list.valvesoftware.com to archive... > Problem solved. > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Crazed Gunman <bsr.crazedgun...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Oh, the maturity of this mailing list sometimes. I mention being unable >> to unsubscribe from the mailing list, so someone kindly signs me up for >> many, many more. Thanks. >> On Jul 2, 2015 5:41 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I've given up on this a while ago. >>> >>> When the 1 year mark passed with no concessions for communities except >>> for quickpick that no one uses, it was safe to say that Valve doesn't care >>> about communities anymore. There is no sense of urgency as they let >>> player-bases carefully built up over several years be irreversibly >>> destroyed in a few months. >>> >>> We were just there to foot their hosting bill before they found out they >>> could make way more money by selling items. They have no sense of shame for >>> betraying the people that helped drive their profit margin up before >>> switching to microtransactions. >>> >>> The owner of TN now works at Valve, and I believe John here was the >>> owner of Nemu's stomping grounds (which has gone unpunished for years for >>> not labeling the bot "Brutus" as a bot in the browser). And we are still >>> getting even more anti-community features. Maybe now they see the official >>> servers as their own and the community ones as a threat to them now. >>> >>> The lesson here is clear and everyone should know: DO NOT invest your >>> time and enthusiasm into anything related to Steam or Valve will screw you >>> like they did with TF2. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:42 PM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I have to agree also, getting scraps instead of the goodies. Why am i >>>> paying for servers anymore when they get alienated by Valve policies? >>>> >>>> That image there is really the best solution i've seen so far. >>>> >>>> -ics >>>> >>>> >>>> E. Olsen kirjoitti: >>>> >>>>> At this point, I have to agree with Alexander. >>>>> >>>>> I mean, cmon guys - in almost two years of "looking at alternatives" >>>>> you've got nothing to announce when it comes to helping community servers? >>>>> There have been quite a few viable alternative presented, to include this >>>>> one: >>>>> >>>>> http://i.imgur.com/tAmWXj6.png >>>>> >>>>> I've really been a staunch defender of the TF2 team to this point, but >>>>> this is just kicking all the good communities that are left while they're >>>>> down. >>>>> >>>>> Honestly, by the time you guys make community support a priority >>>>> again, it might be too late. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Alexander Corn <mc...@doctormckay.com >>>>> <mailto:mc...@doctormckay.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The blow would be lessened if you would go ahead and set "any >>>>> server" as the default for Quickplay instead of official servers >>>>> only. That was supposed to be a "temporary", "nuclear solution" >>>>> after all. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM, John Schoenick >>>>> <jo...@valvesoftware.com <mailto:jo...@valvesoftware.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey guys, with today's update we're introducing a few new >>>>> features that will impact servers, and I just wanted to give >>>>> you guys a heads up. >>>>> >>>>> There is a new quickplay category, featured, that represents >>>>> the featured maps for a given campaign. In order to have your >>>>> server in this category, you need to be running the mapcycle >>>>> mapcycle_featured_maps.txt, and have the special string >>>>> 'featured' in your quickplay tags. >>>>> >>>>> Today's update also introduces contracts, which currently >>>>> require players be on official servers to complete. >>>>> Unfortunately, our current setup makes it very difficult to >>>>> restrict features like this other than in an all-or-nothing >>>>> manner, and we determined this was necessary to protect the >>>>> system from immediate abuse. >>>>> >>>>> We agree this is not ideal. We are continuing the look at the >>>>> situation with community servers and how we can better support >>>>> passionate communities, but currently have nothing to announce. >>>>> >>>>> - JohnS >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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