> > Nothing to do with competition. I've actually never paid much attention to > what other server operators are doing as I'm more concerned what the > players are saying...and if you think that ads haven't given community > servers a bad reputation among the general player population (deserved or > not), then you haven't been paying attention. >
They were abused by some groups that spammed them on every death and forced them open for 30 seconds. Now they aren't an issue anymore and it was already literally impossible for them to be an issue months before Valve blocked quickplay. Ads on TF2 existed quietly for at least 2 years before the new people started abusing them. Why do you keep harping on something that isn't an issue anymore? Should Valve blacklist pay2win servers just for all the players they drove away from TF2 prior to quickplay? No. Yeah, this pretty much goes back to the OT of this conversion - the fact > that the default quickplay setting negatively affects ALL community > servers, regardless of how "great" they may be. > No it really doesn't. You said this would be a positive change even if Valve doesn't bring community servers back to quickplay. Which means you want the ad supported servers not on quickplay to die so you can get their players. If your servers being ad-free was such a benefit, then you would have all the players you wanted from the non-quickplay pool. And then your suggestion would be useless. I think you might have a bit of tunnel vision when it comes to these Saigns > folks. I've never really thought along the lines of "if this community goes > away, then mine will do better." Maybe because they are filling over a 100 TF2 servers a day while everyone else is shutting down servers? And they are doing so by tricking people into thinking they have more people playing than they actually do? And the fact that they do so without ANY ADS which single-handedly ruins your theory that people abuse the server list only because of ads. Valve has already blocked quickplay players from seeing the MOTD, and no one here is asking to have that reversed. Your wild goose chase into completely destroying the MOTD is unhelpful to put it mildly.
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