Is brain damage a prerequisite to post on Valve related topics? If so I
should have my head examined for even bothering with you people. 

Do you honestly think any of us signed up for this list to watch you drama
queens have sissy slap fights?

Take it elsewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Essay Tew
Phaun
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:45 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Running a Halloween Server

I like hammers. I also like wrenches. I shall create a hlds post about my
toolbox. Don't like it? Filter it.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM, HWDOMD <[email protected]> wrote:

> Better yet, take it off the mailing list because it's not here to give you
> an audience. You want the attention you feel you deserve? Take your
> grandstanding bullshit to the forum, I'm sure they'll even pitch in.
>
> Maybe it's time the Valve folks started laying the hammer down on some of
> you people.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cameron
> Munroe
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:33 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Running a Halloween Server
>
>
>
> Then create a filter in your email and stop blaming us for the
> conversation. Hell make another email account just for this email list.
>
>
> On , PolyQuad wrote:
>
> > You are definitely not alone on this....
> >
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> [email protected]
> >
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of HWDOMD
> >
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:48 PM
> > To: 'Half-Life dedicated
> Linux server mailing list'
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Running a
> Halloween Server
> >
> > Can this discussion be held somewhere else? Like
> the forum, where it's
> > supposed to be?
> >
> > This isn't the place for it
> and I'm getting a little sick of having my inbox
> > filled with your
> petty bullshit back and forth about nothing. I'm pretty
> > sure I'm not
> alone in this.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> [email protected]
> >
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dan
> >
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:04 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated
> Linux server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Running a
> Halloween Server
> >
> > On 15/11/2012 20:21, Rudy Bleeker wrote:
> >
> >> I
> hope I speak for most people when I say that I don't see the problem
> here. If you don't like to play King of the Hill, then don't play on
> servers with KOTH maps in their rotation.
> >
> > I do like to play KOTH
> occasionally. It's not the worse game mode put it
> > that way.
> >
> > But
> on the map they changed that you couldn't really do that. I think the
> >
> first Halloween event did koth - and did it in such a way that running
> >
> around killing people generally worked - in fact, was made part of it
> -
> > hence yes, to me it would have made more sense to pick a different
> game mode
> > this time but it was moot anyway given the, imo bad decision
> to make these
> > bonuses like uber and crits apply to both teams.
> >
> >
> But I've already said that and I'm not repeating everything because
> you
> > didn't read it :-)
> >
> > Again, things were not really free, that's
> a misnomer (perhaps it's worth
> > noting that if Valve's whole modus
> operandi is to take feedback from its
> > customers, and you think you're
> not paying for anything then you should
> > realise that this just means
> you aren't their customer.
> >
> > Hence if you really are "speaking for
> most people" none of what we say
> > counts, does it? :-)
> >
> > They are
> developing and updating their games to cater for the people that do
> >
> pay. Hence one of my points, I'd much prefer - I'd far prefer - a game
> that
> > had something I wanted to buy in it and that was therefore
> targeted at
> > people who want to play it rather than people who clearly
> don't.
> >
> > You can't keep saying "it's free", when all you're really
> saying is "other
> > people are paying for TF2, not us, and Valve change
> the game to get their
> > money rather than ours"
> >
> > I cannot (as I also
> think I pointed out too) really play the game as I
> > always have -
> that's another point I made (although for a while, shortly
> > after F2P,
> as I said on this list at the time, TF2 was actually far, far
> > better
> than it ever was, even at launch in 2007 when it was new and fresh.
> >
> >
> Perhaps simply because of the numbers and the myriad servers to pick
> from
> > and in spite of the general TF2 communities rather asinine and
> ugly reaction
> > to the new players - and their continuing use of the
> term "F2P" to be
> > derogatory.
> >
> > It's even more ironic that you keep
> parroting how the game is "free"
> > given the rather hostile reaction
> >
> a lot of F2P people received because they supposedly hadn't paid.
> >
> >
> Evidently, it's not the most logical community in existence.
> >
> > In a
> lot of ways sheer numbers hid the worst issues with the changes they
> >
> made prior to the game going F2P and I suppose MvM has just made them
> >
> obvious again, whilst being, imo, nowhere near as good as it could have
> been
> > in terms of difficulty and skill required and in terms of the
> number of
> > people needed to play it.
> >
> > For years I've have 2 PCs
> here, with 2 copies of many of Valve games.
> > Now we've got 3 - and yes
> it sucks that
> > most of Valves games don't cater for 2 or 3 players
> albeit it's not so bad
> > for some of them, because you can at least
> start the game and get all the
> > mechanics to trigger with 3 people.
> When modes appear that are stymied for
> > no other reason to spite gamers
> and reward scumbags then it sucks.
> >
> > I know I can join a 6v6 or 12v12
> server - and I've played thousands of hours
> > doing just that, but I
> don't see why I shouldn't be able to play on a LAN -
> > with family and
> friends, simply in order to let credit card thieves launder
> > money in
> TF2 by purchasing keys or to steal accounts and scam gamers.
> >
> > if the
> reason for that is "it's free" then charge me money - let me buy a
> >
> "Sod the traders" ticket in the store that enables me to play the mode
> until
> > I win. That's what MvM does (although with the people here who
> seem to think
> > they "speak for most people" insisting it's all free I
> imagine they haven't
> > spent any time or money on these tickets
> themselves)
> >
> > I couldn't really give a crap if there is or isn't an
> item at the end of a
> > round. We're not at the stage where we're getting
> the beginning of the round
> > yet.
> >
> > If anything Halloween could have
> been a couple of weeks where sheer numbers
> > worked but imo it didn't.
> >
> So far from being "just one week" when things aren't "normal" it could
> have
> > been 2 really good weeks when it was better because it wasn't
> what is
> > currently normal.
> >
> > --
> > Dan
> >
> >
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