Then create a filter in your email and stop blaming us for the conversation. Hell make another email account just for this email list.
On , PolyQuad wrote: > You are definitely not alone on this.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of HWDOMD > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:48 PM > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Running a Halloween Server > > Can this discussion be held somewhere else? Like the forum, where it's > supposed to be? > > This isn't the place for it and I'm getting a little sick of having my inbox > filled with your petty bullshit back and forth about nothing. I'm pretty > sure I'm not alone in this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dan > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:04 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Running a Halloween Server > > On 15/11/2012 20:21, Rudy Bleeker wrote: > >> I hope I speak for most people when I say that I don't see the problem here. If you don't like to play King of the Hill, then don't play on servers with KOTH maps in their rotation. > > I do like to play KOTH occasionally. It's not the worse game mode put it > that way. > > But on the map they changed that you couldn't really do that. I think the > first Halloween event did koth - and did it in such a way that running > around killing people generally worked - in fact, was made part of it - > hence yes, to me it would have made more sense to pick a different game mode > this time but it was moot anyway given the, imo bad decision to make these > bonuses like uber and crits apply to both teams. > > But I've already said that and I'm not repeating everything because you > didn't read it :-) > > Again, things were not really free, that's a misnomer (perhaps it's worth > noting that if Valve's whole modus operandi is to take feedback from its > customers, and you think you're not paying for anything then you should > realise that this just means you aren't their customer. > > Hence if you really are "speaking for most people" none of what we say > counts, does it? :-) > > They are developing and updating their games to cater for the people that do > pay. Hence one of my points, I'd much prefer - I'd far prefer - a game that > had something I wanted to buy in it and that was therefore targeted at > people who want to play it rather than people who clearly don't. > > You can't keep saying "it's free", when all you're really saying is "other > people are paying for TF2, not us, and Valve change the game to get their > money rather than ours" > > I cannot (as I also think I pointed out too) really play the game as I > always have - that's another point I made (although for a while, shortly > after F2P, as I said on this list at the time, TF2 was actually far, far > better than it ever was, even at launch in 2007 when it was new and fresh. > > Perhaps simply because of the numbers and the myriad servers to pick from > and in spite of the general TF2 communities rather asinine and ugly reaction > to the new players - and their continuing use of the term "F2P" to be > derogatory. > > It's even more ironic that you keep parroting how the game is "free" > given the rather hostile reaction > a lot of F2P people received because they supposedly hadn't paid. > > Evidently, it's not the most logical community in existence. > > In a lot of ways sheer numbers hid the worst issues with the changes they > made prior to the game going F2P and I suppose MvM has just made them > obvious again, whilst being, imo, nowhere near as good as it could have been > in terms of difficulty and skill required and in terms of the number of > people needed to play it. > > For years I've have 2 PCs here, with 2 copies of many of Valve games. > Now we've got 3 - and yes it sucks that > most of Valves games don't cater for 2 or 3 players albeit it's not so bad > for some of them, because you can at least start the game and get all the > mechanics to trigger with 3 people. When modes appear that are stymied for > no other reason to spite gamers and reward scumbags then it sucks. > > I know I can join a 6v6 or 12v12 server - and I've played thousands of hours > doing just that, but I don't see why I shouldn't be able to play on a LAN - > with family and friends, simply in order to let credit card thieves launder > money in TF2 by purchasing keys or to steal accounts and scam gamers. > > if the reason for that is "it's free" then charge me money - let me buy a > "Sod the traders" ticket in the store that enables me to play the mode until > I win. That's what MvM does (although with the people here who seem to think > they "speak for most people" insisting it's all free I imagine they haven't > spent any time or money on these tickets themselves) > > I couldn't really give a crap if there is or isn't an item at the end of a > round. We're not at the stage where we're getting the beginning of the round > yet. > > If anything Halloween could have been a couple of weeks where sheer numbers > worked but imo it didn't. > So far from being "just one week" when things aren't "normal" it could have > been 2 really good weeks when it was better because it wasn't what is > currently normal. > > -- > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux [1] > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com [2] > Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2629/5896 - Release Date: 11/15/12 > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux [1] > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux [1] -- -- Cameron Munroe http://www.cameronmunroe.com/ http://www.gaming-servers.net/ http://www.munroenet.com/ Links: ------ [1] https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux [2] http://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
