On 29/10/2012 18:58, doc wrote:
You seem to be upset with TF2 for requiring a certain amount of people to
take on certain tasks. You want to be able to experience 100% of the
content regardless of it's intention, delivery, or challenge. This seems
like you just want more free stuff for your free game
Not at all, I paid for the game and I happily pay for all the games I play.
If the game is updated I don't really get a choice whether to download
the update or not.
Ergo, if an update makes the game suck, the rather asinine (and
completely false) suggestion that the updates were somehow "free" is no
compensation.
I not only get a game that now sucks, I don't get to keep the game I had
that didn't suck. And you say "but it's free" - well free sucks then.
Take my money
and develop a version that doesn't compromise the gameplay to enable
money laundering and / or credit fraud that PC gamer was reporting on
the other day.
I do think that, overall, games that get updates, patches and fixes are
better than games that don't.
Indeed, I don't really think it should be legal for any company to sell
software that isn't maintained for a period after release (in much
the same way that if I buy a car or a washing machine and it's faulty,
I'd expect those faults to be corrected. (I think it's basically only
the game industry that
still sells software in this "release it and forget about it" way)
Software development doesn't work if you don't do updates.
Clearly Valve have done more than simple maintenance to TF2 though - and
TF2 is better because of the updates it has had. But that's certainly
not true of all of the updates and it's a bit of a fallacy to claim the
updates
are free or worse to somehow use this supposed 'free' update notion in a
kind if "you can't complain about the updates" manner.
Valve are not a charity and they are not altruistic. They are believed
to be a billion dollar company.
It's also nonsense because the whole premise of Valve developing
software in this way is to get and react to customer feedback.
As for the restriction on number of players, it sucks - and it sucks
only because of the so-called "economy" and for no other reason.
An economy that is full of, well, dishonest, thieving and cheating
scumbags. There's no exaggeration there - and that includes, current
Valve employees,
credit card fraudsters and so on. I'm sure you must agree, if the game
is now at a stage where they've stopped taking money from people who
play it, and instead
rig things to cater to scumbags, it's rather disingenuous of you to
claim "it's free". It's not really free all you're saying is what I
mentioned in my earlier message
that Valve have stopped writing games for people that want to play them,
and they've stopped taking money from people who want to play them. They
still take
money - I would say they should write a decent game and charge money for
it then :)
Most of the things they get money for now in TF2 don't require the game
and I think that is really the crux of the problem.
As for saying It's "only one map during one week", I'm sure those
complaining of empty servers shortly before the halloween update will
explain to you
why, during that particular week or two period, why it would help if the
game didn't suck. See? You can't play by yourself, simply because of the
items and
even though the game hits 100k people playing, and lots of servers are
full, the map they are all playing on sucks.
The next week, when halloween is over, you go back to there being few,
if any decent servers - not the least because Valve removed all their
good servers and put them on MvM.
--
Dan
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