--- In [email protected], Bob Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The 130 doesn't care if the front edge is straight, it only cares 
if the 
> feed is straight, and from
> watching it in operation I think it just checks to be sure that the 
edge 
> of the paper doesn't
> move much during feed (which it would during an out-of-square 
misfeed). 
> I further suspect
> that it does some kind of averaging over the paper edge to account 
for 
> edges that may wave in and out.
> I deduce this from the fact that sometimes it concludes very 
quickly 
> (and with very little paper advanced)
> that the paper is fine, and sometimes it advances many many feet 
before 
> concluding that the paper
> feed is good enough.
> 
> Of course, it is MUCH easier to get the paper to load straight if 
the 
> front edge is square
> since you can just jam the paper in and let it go (usually).
> 
> If you are careful to load the paper straight, you can feed it with 
a 
> badly out-of-square/ragged
> edge. This almost always take more than a few tries, but that's how 
I do 
> it since I'm usually hacking
> the end of the roll off with a pair of scissors and can't be 
bothered 
> with trying to create a really
> square cut just for feeding.
> 
> I sure wish the built-in cutter would cope with canvas!


Hello Bob:

Thanks for that additionl info on your experiences...I think it was 
about 3 years ago a friend of mine bought the auto feed roll cutter 
for the 130...We had so much trouble with it, especially with canvas 
it left a bad taste in my mouth..Probably why I abandoned loading 
anything from the back...I have a table jig set up where I cut up a 
whole 40 ft roll in various sizes my customers always use...Takes me 
about 15 minutes for the entire process so it works for me...

BTW, I started using a set of cordless scissors awhile back and they 
are marvelously fast...They will cut 24" of canvas in about 3 
seconds...Here is a link in case you might be interested...

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-SZ360-3-6-Volt-
Cordless/dp/B000BAURWU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?
ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1217465522&sr=8-1



> 
> kandoro wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected] 
> > <mailto:HPDesignJet_Printers%40yahoogroups.com>, Bob Wise <bob@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > The list discussions have been (if I recall correctly) that SOME
> > 130s
> > > will handle 20 mil canvas, and
> > > others may not... variations in thickness handling from 130 to 
130
> > have
> > > also been discussed on the list,
> > > including roller tension hacks. BTW, a paper roller stand can be
> > made
> > > from PVC pipe for a few bucks.
> > >
> > > -bw
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hello Bob:
> >
> > Thanks for bringing that up...I just know that both my 100 and 130
> > handle it with ease when loading from the front...Sure I suppose 
you
> > can build a pipe roller for
> > a few bucks to load from the back but you STILL have to square and
> > cut the leading edge for
> > each print by hand don't you?...Maybe I'm missing something 
here?...
> >
> > kd
> >
> > > kandoro wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected] 
> > <mailto:HPDesignJet_Printers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:HPDesignJet_Printers%40yahoogroups.com>, "dr_defecto"
> > > > <mr_ieus@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone - new member to the forum!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm an amateur photographer, and been looking into printing 
my
> > own
> > > > > canvases for home and to possibly sell at craft fairs, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I have a limited budget, so I'm looking for a 
fairly
> > > > > reasonable setup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some of the things I've been considering...
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. The cost of the printer itself (possibly HP130)
> > > > > 2. The cost of upgrading to a CISS (seen a few on EBay - any
> > good?)
> > > > > 3. The cost of adding a stand and paper catcher (for HP130)
> > > > > 4. The cost of canvas stretchers
> > > > > 5. The cost of canvas rolls
> > > > >
> > > > > As you can see, I've honed in on the HP130 - it seems a lot 
of
> > > > > printer for the money and I know I can get a second hand 
one on
> > > > > EBay. That being said, I would certainly consider 
alternatives.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was going to bid on an HP 5000 (Went for £1020 in an Ebay
> > > > > auction!!) but I shyed away when I found out how much the
> > > > cartridges
> > > > > cost!! Also the size was a consideration.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing that concerned me was the maximum weight of the 
canvas
> > > > the
> > > > > HP130 could take - 300gsm - most canvases start at 350 and 
seen
> > up
> > > > to
> > > > > 450gsm. Does that mean the 130 can only take thin canvas?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd welcome any thoughts anyone has!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > > Glenn.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Glenn:
> > > >
> > > > I've used the same 20 mil Illuminata Matte canvas with my old 
HP
> > 100
> > > > and now HP 130 with no thickness related issues...The only 
problem
> > > > i've ever had is making sure the canvas is squarely cut and 
feed
> > > > absolutely straight...I ALWAYS load from the front...There is 
no
> > need
> > > > to load from the back if one doens't use the auto roller
> > > > attachment...This auto roller will NOT cut canvas or anything
> > over 10
> > > > mil...Even that is pushing it...
> > > >
> > > > Here is a link for the Illuminata canvas:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.inkjetart.com/cart/illuminata-matte-c- 
> > <http://www.inkjetart.com/cart/illuminata-matte-c->
> > 1_796_1160_1162.html
> > > > <http://www.inkjetart.com/cart/illuminata-matte-c- 
> > <http://www.inkjetart.com/cart/illuminata-matte-c->
> > 1_796_1160_1162.html>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>



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