...No way. Augusto, I am galician, galician is my only language (I've never
spoke spanish, never in my whole life), I am "busy" with linguistics and
philological issues since 18 ( I am 33 years old). As i told you, you can hear
"zanfona" in Galiza, my country. You can hear "zanfona" by galician people. But
that is no the question. "Zanfona" is a spaninsh world, no doubt. It isn't my
or yours opinion. Idiom is what is. Maybe in the year 2513 we'll (not "we"
obviously) say "zanfona" and "sanfona" are two accepted variations of the same
word. Not today. People are more and more colonized here in Galiza and it's
reflected in their language. But, and this is important, galician idiom isn't.
Can you see (I am sure) the difference? It's a speaker deficit or problem, not
language's.
I dont want disturb, believe me. Maybe this is not the place to this question
('strictu senso' there is no question at all, as I said. Only opinions vs.
phylology).
Português é galego, galego é português. Desde Coseriu, que tratou este nosso
idioma particularmente, ninguém duvida isto. Discrepâncias sobre isto na Galiza
são apenas na "representação", isto é, na ortografia.
I know this is not so interesting for this group. My fault, maybe I souldn't
have put the question. Sorry for that.
...eu,
pirata petulante,
namorado sem amante,
malabarista errante,
músico ambulante,
eu, tam breve...
From: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 08:24:24 -0200
Subject: Re: [HG-new] gurdy teacher in Lisbon?
To: [email protected]
it is that I have heard many Galego speakers saying "zanfona" (with a th sound
and all), and I presumed that zanfona AND sanfona were probably two accepted
variations within all the dialects in Galiza. I also assumed that a more proper
Castilan name would be "zanfoña", as I've heard elsewhere.
I am all for protecting the Galician language, it is so beautiful (and so
beautifully close to my own language, Portuguese - even closer, somehow, to
Brazilian Portuguese than to Continental Portuguese, I wonder why).
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 12:57 AM, eu paulo p. <[email protected]> wrote:
...Just a little not directly "gurdiest" (gurdistic? gurdiewhatever??) thing,
Augusto: hurdy-gurdy, the word, is "sanfona" in galician language, never
"zanfona". That is the spanish one. I know, there is a word you can hear there
in my little country. Consequences of colonialism. But idiom is what it is.
(let me give you an example, not about colonialism just about linguistic
substitution --different causes, but it can be useful-- : "chanterelle" or
"chien" or "mouche", they are not english words and they are pretty used in our
english conversations).
...eu,
pirata petulante,
namorado sem amante,
malabarista errante,
músico ambulante,
eu, tam breve...
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:40:49 -0200
Subject: Re: [HG-new] gurdy teacher in Lisbon?
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Sorry for taking so long to reply - I am going through some old unread messages
Maybe you'll find someone in Lisbon, because the gurdy is quite popular in the
neighboring country of Galiza (NW bit of Spain on top of Portugal). There it is
called zanfona. In Portugal it is called "sanfona" or "viela de roda".
Try to go to Santiago de Compostela or A Coruña in Galiza and you will find
many gurdyists around. There are even at least two "folk universities" in
Galiza that teach the HG in their curriculum, and I've heard that the usually
have weekend classes - it is easy to drive back and forth from Portugal or hop
on a train or something. It is all subsidized and really cheap.
Augusto
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:42 AM, doug.abshire <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi. In Aug 2011 I am moving to Lisbon Portugal for a 2 year work
contract. I will be bringing a volksgurdy from Olympia Musical
Instruments. I am a new beginning student!
Does anyone have a contact in Lisbon?
Thanks,
Doug
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