> Is there a possibility of a separate IND$FILE client with all the In the late 1980's/very early 1990's Spectrum Concepts (XCOM 6.2) had a product called IND$VTAM which was an IND$FILE that ran outside of TSO, on its own SNA session. I have forgotten the exact details, but I remember its existence well because we (my company) were negotiating to buy it (buy the whole product, not license a copy). The negotiations did not succeed. Spectrum was a very difficult company to deal with, as anyone who might remember the fallout from the sale of XCOM to Legent will recall.
I guess in @Gil's terminology that would be "a separate IND$FILE server." How would such a separate IND$FILE client work? Would it somehow share the TSO session with the emulator? Or would it somehow log onto TSO on its own, despite its lack of "ability to format a display"? Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: And the survey says... On Sun, 2 May 2021 08:18:38 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >On 5/2/2021 4:15 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >> ... IMHO there is no reason to embed FTP client in 3270 emulation package. > >I guess it was natural for users to look for FTP on the terminal >emulator since that's where they did transfers before TCPIP on the > I would expect that "before TCPIP on the mainframe" it would *not* be "natural for users to look for FTP on the terminal". >mainframe. But I always thought that was strange. Even stranger was >one emulator I used back around 1996 that would lock up the 3270 >terminal while running FTP transfers, to better simulate IND$FILE I assume. > Stranger yet was Mac tn3270 X (abandonware, STTL), with a built-in FTP *server*, presumably to accommodate sites with misgivings about running an FTP server but OK with FTP client. I had a major cognitive disconnect when a colleague first told me that to use FTP on the desktop I needed "to be logged on to TSO!" Only in later releases was the default setting to launch tn3270 with internal FTP server disabled Is there a possibility of a separate IND$FILE client with all the bells and whistles? It would need: o Understanding of 3270/7171/IND$FILE data streams. o But not ability to format a display. ??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
