They could model it on WSA. :-) On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:03 PM Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Is there a possibility of a separate IND$FILE client with all the > > In the late 1980's/very early 1990's Spectrum Concepts (XCOM 6.2) had a > product called IND$VTAM which was an IND$FILE that ran outside of TSO, on > its own SNA session. I have forgotten the exact details, but I remember its > existence well because we (my company) were negotiating to buy it (buy the > whole product, not license a copy). The negotiations did not succeed. > Spectrum was a very difficult company to deal with, as anyone who might > remember the fallout from the sale of XCOM to Legent will recall. > > I guess in @Gil's terminology that would be "a separate IND$FILE server." > > How would such a separate IND$FILE client work? Would it somehow share the > TSO session with the emulator? Or would it somehow log onto TSO on its own, > despite its lack of "ability to format a display"? > > Charles > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: And the survey says... > > On Sun, 2 May 2021 08:18:38 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: > > >On 5/2/2021 4:15 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > > > >> ... IMHO there is no reason to embed FTP client in 3270 emulation > package. > > > >I guess it was natural for users to look for FTP on the terminal > >emulator since that's where they did transfers before TCPIP on the > > > I would expect that "before TCPIP on the mainframe" it would *not* be > "natural for users to look for FTP on the terminal". > > >mainframe. But I always thought that was strange. Even stranger was > >one emulator I used back around 1996 that would lock up the 3270 > >terminal while running FTP transfers, to better simulate IND$FILE I > assume. > > > Stranger yet was Mac tn3270 X (abandonware, STTL), with a built-in > FTP *server*, presumably to accommodate sites with misgivings about > running an FTP server but OK with FTP client. > > I had a major cognitive disconnect when a colleague first told me > that to use FTP on the desktop I needed "to be logged on to TSO!" > Only in later releases was the default setting to launch tn3270 with > internal FTP server disabled > > Is there a possibility of a separate IND$FILE client with all the > bells and whistles? It would need: > o Understanding of 3270/7171/IND$FILE data streams. > o But not ability to format a display. > ??? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
