Some sites do not allow FTP, but do allow transfer through the 3270 emulator.
On Sun, 2 May 2021 at 12:15, Radoslaw Skorupka <r.skoru...@hotmail.com> wrote: > My responses below > > W dniu 01.05.2021 o 23:31, Bob Bridges pisze: > > Pan Skorupka, I'm not sure whether I'm about to agree or disagree about > FTP. I use FTP as much as possible for file transfer, but I don't > understand why a terminal emulator needs it built in: What's wrong with > just using Windows FTP and MVS FTP? Which is maybe what you're saying. > > That's exactly what I said. FTP is fine, FTP is needed, I use FTP, but > IMHO there is no reason to embed FTP client in 3270 emulation package. > > > > One reason I like FTP so much is that IND$FILE can be so clunky if you > have more than one or two files to transfer. Most emulators provide a way > to set up multiple transfers, but only manually - that is, I have to add > each file to the collection, one at a time. How is that better than doing > the file transfer one at a time. Unless I'm going to be doing the same > transfers many times, of course, but that's never the case, for me. What I > really want is to set up a list of 40 or 50 filenames, and provide that > list to the utility. I can do that with native FTP. I've done it for > IND$FILE, too, but only by manually creating a multiple-file transfer > containing three or four filenames, then analyzing the instructions it > saved and writing a program that reproduced that proprietary format for my > 40 or 50. It's worth the trouble only when I'm starting out at a new > client that doesn't support the mainframe FTP server, and I need to load my > REXX tools. > > > > So when you write "scriptable IND$FILE", my ears perk up. Someone tell > me more, please. > > Scripting is unclear, I think I should rather say file list. > I mean just list of dataset/files to sent. > Example: > D:\datasets\BE08.R0.CNTL.xmi xmit~x0 > D:\datasets\BE08.R1.PS1.xmi user2~x1.OLD > D:\datasets\PS2.txt txt~x2 > C:\some\directory\BE05.R3.bin BIN2~x3 > D:\datasets\BE08.R4.PS4.xmi xmit~x4 > D:\datasets\BE08.R5.PS5.xmi xmit~x5 > > Three positional parameters: > 1. File name (PC side) - i.e. "BE08.R0.CNTL.xmi" in D:\datasets directory > 2. Transfer/translation method - "xmit" is just a name. Inside there are > parameters like ASCII-EBCDIC translation, LRECL, RECFM, optionally > SPACE, etc. > 3. x0, x1.OLD, x2... - dataset names, TSO prefixing apply > > As I said I don't know all possible emulators. I know PCOMM allows use > of such lists, while wc3270 and Nexus do not have such feature. And of > course when you have to transfer few dozens of files to the host it is > really easy to create such list, even when some of the files need > different parameters. > Of course for gigabyte transfers FTP is still better. > > > > > BTW: "Pan Skorupka" made me smile :-) > Polish is complex here, we use declension, so it would be "panie > Skorupka". Declension (declination?) is a nightmare for English speakers > and lack of declension in English is a problem of Polish speakers. > Nevermind. > > Regards > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > (looking for new job) > Lodz, Poland > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
