Charles, one other option some vendor products provide is an MVS Command I can 
issue, and trap with automation, that would let me know expiration when I want 
it.  Rather than running a stand alone program

F tool-stc-name,STATUS

That would provide status of tool and license key


Lizette



> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
> Charles Mills
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 1:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Best way to alert customer to pending license expiration?
> 
> THANK YOU ALL for taking the time to provide your input. The management
> decision is to keep it simple and put out a vanilla WTO that will be distinct
> and easy to automate.
> 
> Let me do one e-mail in response to your many, many helpful details:
> 
> > IMHO the best way is a WTO that is easy to catch in the customer's
> automation software.
> 
> Thank you @Shmuel. I agree that is the approach.
> 
> > Wouldn't it be nice if there were a multi-ISV convention for format of
> expiration alerts?
> 
> Vendor collaboration on anything license-related alarms the anti-trust
> lawyers.
> 
> > Or even for messages requiring human attention?
> 
> I think one person's "needs human attention" is another person's "ho-hum."
> 
> > The customer has a responsibility to manage their own system.
> > The fact that many do not (completely) is not really something you can
> solve.
> 
> Agreed. But I still keep trying. :-( There is no software feature that
> substitutes for management. I keep forgetting that.
> 
> > I don't know why the sales team can't keep track of what they've sold
> 
> Neither do I, but I'm a programmer, not a psychologist or a VP of Sales. In
> my experience they at least DO not, not reliably.
> 
> > And to be totally crazy maybe the salesperson could actually visit the
> customer.
> 
> That train has largely left the station. That is a HUGE, HUGE cost that would
> have to be passed on to you-know-who. And customers do not want to take the
> time to have someone in their offices. I miss the days when -- as the
> technical, non-sales CEO of my old company -- I could call someone up and say
> "hey, I'm going to be in Pittsburgh next month, can I take you to lunch?" and
> they would be delighted. Nowadays they would not pick up the phone. I really
> miss those days.
> 
> > From my experience over the past few decades on the customer side
> > there is no full proof means to inform the customer of an expiring license.
> 
> Sadly, I fear you are right.
> 
> > My software emails the customer a notice once a day,
> 
> I like it, but not going to go there at this time. Will keep that in mind.
> 
> > You're assuming that the target machine has the technical connectivity to
> "call home,"
> > or, that if it doesn't, the operators and managers of the target
> > machine would agree to such connectivity and configure it. I don't think
> you can make those assumptions.
> 
> Agreed. In spades.
> 
> > So if I can tell the software - when you hit 30 days, then produce a
> > message to syslog and set the RC to 08 - but only if this tool is run.
> 
> I like it. I want to keep this in mind.
> 
> > The WTO would go to someone to low in the pecking order to make this
> worthwhile.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> Charles
> 
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