It was more of a frustration with feedback from the techs than it was my own
experience.  I have my hands full with other projects, and haven't gotten
directly involved with this one.  I had figured 2 other guys on it would
suffice.  I had a hard time believing that it could be that difficult, and
for the price, I would have thought that it would have had a more
user-friendly interface, based again on the feedback I am receiving.  I
still haven't touched it myself.  I did try to get them going by requesting
samples of other's lists here, and got one response...forwarded it on to the
techs.  I guess that it didn't help.

I recommended this to my company based on the fact that it looked as though
people here were very happy with the product.  In fact, I hadn't read any
negative comments since I put myself on the Declude Forum list.  I will
admit, I've tried to encourage these guys to join both the Imail and the
Declude Forums, and post their questions, and I haven't seen a message one
from them, which adds to my frustration.  I myself can't believe that it's
that complicated in this day and age.

I do apologize for the '...pain in the...' statement...just a moment of
frustration.  I doubt that the issue is bad techs, per se, as I've seen them
to some great things.  In this case, who knows, maybe we all went about it
wrong...or maybe the software doesn't follow our way of working....

R. Scott Perry, I'm sorry if you've taken great offense for this, I don't
know how much you and my boss have spoken on this subject...I fear not
enough.  Do what you must.

Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom)
Program Manager MCSE/CNA/A+
Control Concepts, Inc.
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703-876-6418
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Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:29 AM
To: Tom Kemp
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Something better than Declude


Tuesday, November 12, 2002 you wrote:
TK> Well, we've been trying for a couple of weeks to work with
TK> Declude... What a pain in the *%@! Is there anything out there
TK> that you can recommend that will work better with our Imail server
TK> for filtering all of this junk mail?

    You could try IMGATE but based on the rest of your message the
    technical capacity of your organization probably rules that out.

TK> Perhaps something with a better user interface, that can be used
TK> to filter on the server-wide level, with the capability to make
TK> acceptions and additions per user? Perhaps event a User's
TK> self-configurable option?

    You should probably look at the big, expensive services.

TK> I've had two engineers here spending alot of time with this
TK> product. They are both considerably intelligent and experienced,
TK> yet they have had nothing but trouble.

    Uhh - that's pretty hard to believe.

TK> We would prefer something that was more centralized...giving more
TK> control to the engineers.

    You need to change engineers.


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