Reply to: A. Clausen
      Re: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward on Wednesday 5:33:58 PM

We  are  doing  this the next few days. The only remaining question is
that  if  I  go to 'Relay for Addresses' that the local SMTP AUTH will
work  for all other local domains and users. The docs are not clear on
this,  at least with regard to addressing directly the different relay
modes. It seems to be universally stated, so I should be able to store
and  forward  and  host  auth  users  too?  Just  looking  for       a
confirmation...

I  really  don't  have  a choice. I guess, I can presume, some on this
forum  appear  to  be  reporting us as an open relay just to force the
issue,  or so it appears. None of this happened until we indicated how
we  are  operating here. It really complicates things as we are trying
to  manage  so  many  other  projects  right now. I hope it is an easy
transition as we have so many users.

Thanks,

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Roger Heath
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www.rleeheath.com


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A> We had about a thousand users, and after a number of complaints and my
A> nightmares about blacklisting, we finally threw in the towel and went to
A> SMTP Auth.  There were a few hickups, and one or two users still using
A> ancient mail programs like Eudora 1.44 (if you can believe it) being told to
A> upgrade, the whole thing was over in about a week.  Now, for fun, I watch as
A> all the spammers try to use local addresses to relay spam and get rejected,
A> and realize that for all that time we were open relays.

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A> A. Clausen

A> ----- Original Message -----
A> From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 18:23
A> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward


>> We got thousands, tens of thousands of users and forced them to
A> authenticate. We could not afford being blacklisted.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roger Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 9:07 PM
>> To: Andrey Fyodorov
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward
>>
>>
>>
>> Reply to: Andrey Fyodorov
>>       Re: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward on Tuesday 6:59:33 PM
>>
>> Yes  I  know.  But  I  have  thousands of users who have not setup for
>> secure authentication using many different readers.
>>
>> No,  I  have been this way for six years and still am not listed as an
>> open  relay.  Like  I  said  earlier, library attacks here are cut off
>> almost  instantly  by BlackIce Server Protection and any one who tries
>> to  mass  mail  is trapped by Declude Hijack. Since any one can signup
>> for  a  free email account, they can instantly establish a relay here,
>> so  there  is  no real point to worrying about it. This is why we have
>> resorted to these other methods which are working just super.
>>
>> We  initially  used  EZSignUp,  but  this  was very bad. Now we have a
>> confirming  email response signup and we have not had any major abuser
>> since. This is a tightly monitored system and we are very pleased with
>> our current configuration.
>>
>> --
>> Roger Heath
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.rleeheath.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Copy of Original Message(s): -----
>>
>> A> Don't  you  know  that in Imail "no mail relay" means it will relay
>> A> for those who authenticate?
>>
>> A> relay  for  local  users will get you blacklisted for being an open
>> A> relay in no time
>>
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