Our local users (those defined in Relay Mail for Addresses), it works just
fine.  I think Netscape 4 Messenger users will have to supply their mail
account password the first time after the change, but those were the only
problems we had.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "A. Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 15:58
Subject: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward


> Reply to: A. Clausen
>       Re: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward on Wednesday 5:33:58 PM
>
> We  are  doing  this the next few days. The only remaining question is
> that  if  I  go to 'Relay for Addresses' that the local SMTP AUTH will
> work  for all other local domains and users. The docs are not clear on
> this,  at least with regard to addressing directly the different relay
> modes. It seems to be universally stated, so I should be able to store
> and  forward  and  host  auth  users  too?  Just  looking  for       a
> confirmation...
>
> I  really  don't  have  a choice. I guess, I can presume, some on this
> forum  appear  to  be  reporting us as an open relay just to force the
> issue,  or so it appears. None of this happened until we indicated how
> we  are  operating here. It really complicates things as we are trying
> to  manage  so  many  other  projects  right now. I hope it is an easy
> transition as we have so many users.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Roger Heath
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.rleeheath.com
>
>
> ----- Copy of Original Message(s): -----
>
> A> We had about a thousand users, and after a number of complaints and my
> A> nightmares about blacklisting, we finally threw in the towel and went
to
> A> SMTP Auth.  There were a few hickups, and one or two users still using
> A> ancient mail programs like Eudora 1.44 (if you can believe it) being
told to
> A> upgrade, the whole thing was over in about a week.  Now, for fun, I
watch as
> A> all the spammers try to use local addresses to relay spam and get
rejected,
> A> and realize that for all that time we were open relays.
>
> A> --
> A> A. Clausen
>
> A> ----- Original Message -----
> A> From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 18:23
> A> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward
>
>
> >> We got thousands, tens of thousands of users and forced them to
> A> authenticate. We could not afford being blacklisted.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Roger Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 9:07 PM
> >> To: Andrey Fyodorov
> >> Cc:
> >> Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Reply to: Andrey Fyodorov
> >>       Re: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward on Tuesday 6:59:33 PM
> >>
> >> Yes  I  know.  But  I  have  thousands of users who have not setup for
> >> secure authentication using many different readers.
> >>
> >> No,  I  have been this way for six years and still am not listed as an
> >> open  relay.  Like  I  said  earlier, library attacks here are cut off
> >> almost  instantly  by BlackIce Server Protection and any one who tries
> >> to  mass  mail  is trapped by Declude Hijack. Since any one can signup
> >> for  a  free email account, they can instantly establish a relay here,
> >> so  there  is  no real point to worrying about it. This is why we have
> >> resorted to these other methods which are working just super.
> >>
> >> We  initially  used  EZSignUp,  but  this  was very bad. Now we have a
> >> confirming  email response signup and we have not had any major abuser
> >> since. This is a tightly monitored system and we are very pleased with
> >> our current configuration.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Roger Heath
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> www.rleeheath.com
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Copy of Original Message(s): -----
> >>
> >> A> Don't  you  know  that in Imail "no mail relay" means it will relay
> >> A> for those who authenticate?
> >>
> >> A> relay  for  local  users will get you blacklisted for being an open
> >> A> relay in no time
> >>
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