good to know, however I like the non-repudiation that comes with authentication. 
Authentication does not beat digital signatures but it is better than nothing.
I like to know that when mail is sent by someone and it originated on my server, then 
it is indeed sent by that person.
 
Sometimes it does not have to be mass-mailing spam that would get one in trouble with 
blacklists. There are some smartasses out there that send one off hatemail or 
defamation type messages for example that Hijack probably won't catch.
 
Also when there are many various customer domains on the same server, you have to 
protect them from each other as well as protect yourself from them.

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Roger Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
        Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 9:30 PM 
        To: Andrey Fyodorov 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward
        
        

        Reply to: Andrey Fyodorov
              Re: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward on Tuesday 8:13:22 PM
        
        We  use  http://www.dnsstuff.com  with  Declude  to  search  all of em
        regularly and we only have one after all these years, BlarsBL and even
        that  is  because  we  are on Qwest, not because of any reported abuse
        from  our  system.  This guy blocks most whole providers, except Dutch
        ones,  or  so  he tells us. With his list you won't get much spam, but
        not much of anything else either... <g>
        
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        A> I don't know. Try going to ORDB and have them test your site for open 
relay.
        
        A>         -----Original Message-----
        A>         From: Roger Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        A>         Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 9:07 PM
        A>         To: Andrey Fyodorov
        A>         Cc:
        A>         Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward
               
               
        
        A>         Reply to: Andrey Fyodorov
        A>               Re: [IMail Forum] Store and Forward on Tuesday 6:59:33 PM
               
        A>         Yes  I  know.  But  I  have  thousands of users who have not setup 
for
        A>         secure authentication using many different readers.
               
        A>         No,  I  have been this way for six years and still am not listed as 
an
        A>         open  relay.  Like  I  said  earlier, library attacks here are cut 
off
        A>         almost  instantly  by BlackIce Server Protection and any one who 
tries
        A>         to  mass  mail  is trapped by Declude Hijack. Since any one can 
signup
        A>         for  a  free email account, they can instantly establish a relay 
here,
        A>         so  there  is  no real point to worrying about it. This is why we 
have
        A>         resorted to these other methods which are working just super.
               
        A>         We  initially  used  EZSignUp,  but  this  was very bad. Now we 
have a
        A>         confirming  email response signup and we have not had any major 
abuser
        A>         since. This is a tightly monitored system and we are very pleased 
with
        A>         our current configuration.
               
        A>         --
        A>         Roger Heath
        A>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        A>         www.rleeheath.com
               
               
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        A>         A> Don't  you  know  that in Imail "no mail relay" means it will 
relay
        A>         A> for those who authenticate?
               
        A>         A> relay  for  local  users will get you blacklisted for being an 
open
        A>         A> relay in no time
               
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