We've got the largest 'air cooled' Generac and run natural gas.  We
only use about 40A of the 100A capacity to power all of our network,
air, lights and other essential items.  It's been in service about 2
yrs and it's trouble free.

We found a place in Arizona on the Internet (don't remember the name)
with a good price, including lift-gate shipping.


Friday, December 31, 2004, 11:07:48 AM, Dan Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DB> Aw  shucks, why not now!
DB> �
DB> Generac, free shipping, free AUTOMATIC transfer switch, free
DB> pad, under  $3K, 15KW. Add $500 for a 250-gallon propane tank and
DB> "Surf til you  drop!".
DB> �
DB> Dan
DB> �
DB> I run  6 servers on a $120 Belkin 1200 va. The monitor
DB> software says it's 56% loaded,  and the battery shows about 65%
DB> after the generator kicks  on.
  
DB> -----Original Message-----
DB> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
DB> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris   
DB> Ulrich
DB> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 10:24 AM
DB> To: [email protected]
DB> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: KVM    over IP & RemoteReboot


DB> Hi Matt.� Thanks - I think    you're right on target for future growth.�

DB> Since we're in control    of all machines and these are not
DB> colo's, the multiple user access isn't even    a necessity - but
DB> great to know, and a good item at $139 MSRP

DB> What    we're likely to do is use some older 8 port
DB> MasterSwitches, plug them into the    existing UPS (which should
DB> be enough for 4 of these machines) and just    use
DB> four of the ports, leaving the other four empty.� We can pick these up very 
cheap on eBay.

DB> On the new machines - we're going to put    12 per "metro
DB> rack", plus KVM, local (to the rack) 10/100 switch, keyboard and  
DB> monitor - 
DB> your approach sounds best - one larger UPS with an extra   
DB> attached battery (around $1k MSRP) plus the $139 MasterSwitch

DB> Thanks    for all the advice.� Next week... generators... ; )

DB> Hope everyone    has a happy & healthy New Year.� I know I'll
DB> be home, monitoring the    network, just in case that pesky Y2K
DB> bug shows up late.... 

DB> Chris


DB> At 01:18 AM 12/31/2004, you wrote:
  
DB> I'm thinking that maybe something      got lost in the
DB> shuffle here when APC was first discussed.� The older      model
DB> MasterSwitch did not allow for individual logins to control
DB> individual      ports, however, the newer versions do, and this is
DB> a lot less expensive than      buying individual devices for each
DB> outlet.

DB> For each rack (set of      servers), get a single UPS that
DB> can handle the wattage of the combined      servers for the
DB> necessary period of time, and add a MasterSwitch or other      PDU
DB> from APC that allows for separate logins for separate ports, and
DB> you      have yourself a complete solution without a wiring mess
DB> or excessive      equipment to support.� Just read the manuals
DB> associated with the PDU's      listed on APC's site:

DB> ��� http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=70

DB> Note      from the MasterSwitch product brochure:
  
  
DB> Individual Outlet Control
  
DB> MasterSwitch products provide power solutions for co-locators (COLOs)       
 and
  
DB> Internet Service Providers (ISPs). COLOs and ISPs can take control of       
 their
  
DB> businesses by giving control back to their customers. This is done by       
 administrators
  
DB> assigning individual or multiple outlet control to user accounts.
  
DB> Customers then have the ability to control their equipments power        
without onsite
  
DB> intervention.



DB> The prices listed on their site are the      MSRP's, and new
DB> from Shopper.com you will generally do better than 20% off     
DB> that price.� Find something suitable and used on eBay and get +50%
DB> off.� The following 16-port device has an MSRP of $139 and allows
DB> for      multiple users:

DB> ���
DB> http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP9227

DB> A      used (eBay) UPS that doesn't need special wiring and
DB> can handle the load      (~2,000 VA) with new batteries and a new
DB> 16 port MasterSwitch of this type      should run somewhere around
DB> $500...shipped.

DB> Matt



DB> P.      Guethlein wrote: 
  
DB> At 01:06 PM 12/30/2004 -0600,        you wrote: 
  
DB> Wouldn't something like this          work for you. 

DB> http://www.dataprobe.com/power/iboot.html  

DB> Tim 

DB> Here's one that is less expensive. 

DB> http://www.RemotePowerSwitch.com  

DB> -Pete 



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