Thanks, Anil ji, If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula pallida.
On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 6:30 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < [email protected]> wrote: > Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA > > 1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long > ................. > > 2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long ..............C. > dimorphantha (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii ) > > 2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long .................. C. > cana > > 1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8 > mm long > ............................................................................................... > C. pallida > > > Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards > Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as > blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small > hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida. > > I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where > flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and > leaves hardy 1 cm in length. > > > Regards > > > > On 4/22/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Anil ji. > > I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details closely > > of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences > between > > the two. > > > > > > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 5:58 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Respected Garg Ji > >> > >> As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of > >> Campanula found in H.P. > >> > >> FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. Wadhwa, 1984 > >> > >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and Kinnaur) > >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and Lahul & > >> Spiti) > >> 3. Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S) > >> 4. Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur) > >> 5. Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S) > >> 6. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. (Chamba, > >> Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as > >> well as plains) > >> 7. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) > >> 8. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) > >> > >> FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 > >> 1. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. > >> 2. Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) and also > >> included Campanula cana Wall. under this. > >> 3. Campanula latifolia L. > >> > >> FLORA OF BASHAHR (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. Nair, > >> 1977 > >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson > >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. > >> 3. Campanula cana Wall. > >> 4. Campanula cashmeriana Royle > >> 5. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and > >> Campanula > >> ramulosa Wall. > >> 6. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) > >> 7. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) > >> > >> FLORA OF SIRMAUR (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. Sharma, > >> 2004 > >> 1. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula > >> benthamii > >> Wall. ex Kitam. > >> 2. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. > >> > >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. > >> Sharma, 2006 > >> 1. Campanula cana Wall. > >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula > >> benthamii > >> Wall. ex Kitam. > >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. > >> > >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. > >> Sharma, 2006 > >> 1. Campanula cashmeriana Royle > >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula > >> benthamii > >> Wall. ex Kitam. > >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula colorata > >> Wall. > >> 4. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu > >> > >> > >> REGARDS > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Thanks, Anil ji. > >> > After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very difficult > to > >> > segregate. Keys in Flora of China > >> > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> > are > >> > also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close. > >> > *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time > >> > being.* > >> > May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations as > >> > mentioned in Flora Simlensis. > >> > I think Tabish ji will also agree for this. > >> > > >> > On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < > >> [email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Thank you, Garg ji > >> >> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. > >> >> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) and > >> >> included C. canescens and C. cana under this. > >> >> > >> >> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not > erect > >> as > >> >> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned in > >> >> Flora > >> >> Simlensis but with bluish flowers . > >> >> > >> >> Regards > >> >> > >> >> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I think this may be Campanula pallida > >> >>> < > >> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida > >> > > >> >>> as > >> >>> per images and keys at Flora of China > >> >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> > >> >>> (Hypanthium > >> >>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly > >> >>> triangular, > >> >>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), > >> >>> margin > >> >>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida* > >> >>> < > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018 > >> >) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> > >> >>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32 > >> >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25 > >> >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Campanula cana > >> >>> Shimla > >> >>> March/April > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> With best Regards, > >> >>> > >> >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >>> Groups > >> >>> "efloraofindia" group. > >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> >>> send > >> >>> an > >> >>> email to [email protected]. > >> >>> To post to this group, send an email to > >> >>> [email protected] > >> . > >> >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> With regards, > >> >>> J.M.Garg > >> >>> > >> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >> >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >> >>> > >> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >> >>> < > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > >> >>> > >> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian > >> >>> Flora, > >> >>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > >> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in > >> the > >> >>> world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or > >> >>> Efloraofindia > >> >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a > >> >>> species > >> >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). > >> >>> > >> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >> >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than > a > >> >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, > >> >>> Plants > >> >>> etc. > >> >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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