Yes, you should and point out the corrections needed. On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 8:39 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < [email protected]> wrote:
> Should I go through Campanula species at efloraofindia?? > > Regards > > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 8:38 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, Garg ji >> Sir Henry Collett in Flora Simlensis considered C. cana and C. pallida as >> same and had put them under C. colorata. >> It means, even he was not able to differentiate between them. >> >> Regards >> >> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 8:33 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We should take all our posts as pallida, until somebody can prove that >>> both are different in view of wide ranging confusions in different floras. >>> >>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:56 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Then all my posts are C. pallida ! >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, Garg ji >>>>> >>>>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:12 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Anil ji, >>>>>> If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula >>>>>> pallida. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 6:30 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long >>>>>>> ................. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long >>>>>>> ..............C. >>>>>>> dimorphantha (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long >>>>>>> .................. C. cana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8 >>>>>>> mm long >>>>>>> ............................................................................................... >>>>>>> C. pallida >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards >>>>>>> Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as >>>>>>> blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small >>>>>>> hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where >>>>>>> flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and >>>>>>> leaves hardy 1 cm in length. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/22/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > Thanks, Anil ji. >>>>>>> > I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details >>>>>>> closely >>>>>>> > of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences >>>>>>> between >>>>>>> > the two. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 5:58 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < >>>>>>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Respected Garg Ji >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of >>>>>>> >> Campanula found in H.P. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. >>>>>>> Wadhwa, 1984 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and >>>>>>> Kinnaur) >>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and >>>>>>> Lahul & >>>>>>> >> Spiti) >>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S) >>>>>>> >> 4. Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>>>>>> >> 5. Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S) >>>>>>> >> 6. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>>>>>> (Chamba, >>>>>>> >> Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as >>>>>>> >> well as plains) >>>>>>> >> 7. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >>>>>>> >> 8. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 >>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) >>>>>>> and also >>>>>>> >> included Campanula cana Wall. under this. >>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula latifolia L. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> FLORA OF BASHAHR (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. >>>>>>> Nair, >>>>>>> >> 1977 >>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson >>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula cana Wall. >>>>>>> >> 4. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >>>>>>> >> 5. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and >>>>>>> >> Campanula >>>>>>> >> ramulosa Wall. >>>>>>> >> 6. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >>>>>>> >> 7. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> FLORA OF SIRMAUR (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. >>>>>>> Sharma, >>>>>>> >> 2004 >>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>>>>>> >> benthamii >>>>>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & >>>>>>> M. >>>>>>> >> Sharma, 2006 >>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula cana Wall. >>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>>>>>> >> benthamii >>>>>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & >>>>>>> M. >>>>>>> >> Sharma, 2006 >>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>>>>>> >> benthamii >>>>>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula >>>>>>> colorata >>>>>>> >> Wall. >>>>>>> >> 4. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> REGARDS >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >> > Thanks, Anil ji. >>>>>>> >> > After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very >>>>>>> difficult to >>>>>>> >> > segregate. Keys in Flora of China >>>>>>> >> > < >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> >> > also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very >>>>>>> close. >>>>>>> >> > *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> >> > being.* >>>>>>> >> > May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with >>>>>>> citations as >>>>>>> >> > mentioned in Flora Simlensis. >>>>>>> >> > I think Tabish ji will also agree for this. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>>>>>> >> [email protected]> >>>>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >> Thank you, Garg ji >>>>>>> >> >> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. >>>>>>> >> >> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. >>>>>>> colorata) and >>>>>>> >> >> included C. canescens and C. cana under this. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and >>>>>>> not erect >>>>>>> >> as >>>>>>> >> >> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha >>>>>>> mentioned in >>>>>>> >> >> Flora >>>>>>> >> >> Simlensis but with bluish flowers . >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Regards >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> I think this may be Campanula pallida >>>>>>> >> >>> < >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> >>> as >>>>>>> >> >>> per images and keys at Flora of China >>>>>>> >> >>> < >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> >>>>>>> >> >>> (Hypanthium >>>>>>> >> >>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly >>>>>>> >> >>> triangular, >>>>>>> >> >>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along >>>>>>> veins), >>>>>>> >> >>> margin >>>>>>> >> >>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida* >>>>>>> >> >>> < >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018 >>>>>>> >> >) >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> >> >>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >> >>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32 >>>>>>> >> >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25 >>>>>>> >> >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> Campanula cana >>>>>>> >> >>> Shimla >>>>>>> >> >>> March/April >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> -- >>>>>>> >> >>> With best Regards, >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> -- >>>>>>> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google >>>>>>> >> >>> Groups >>>>>>> >> >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>> it, >>>>>>> >> >>> send >>>>>>> >> >>> an >>>>>>> >> >>> email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> >> >>> To post to this group, send an email to >>>>>>> >> >>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >> . >>>>>>> >> >>> Visit this group at >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> -- >>>>>>> >> >>> With regards, >>>>>>> >> >>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> >> >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> >> >>> < >>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia >>>>>>> >. >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>> Indian >>>>>>> >> >>> Flora, >>>>>>> >> >>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> >> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>> (largest in >>>>>>> >> the >>>>>>> >> >>> world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>>>>>> >> >>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> >> >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >> >>> species >>>>>>> >> >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> >> >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of >>>>>>> more than a >>>>>>> >> >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>> >> >>> Plants >>>>>>> >> >>> etc. >>>>>>> >> >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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