Yes, Garg ji On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:12 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Anil ji, > If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula pallida. > > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 6:30 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA >> >> 1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long >> ................. >> >> 2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long ..............C. >> dimorphantha (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii ) >> >> 2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long .................. C. >> cana >> >> 1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8 >> mm long >> ............................................................................................... >> C. pallida >> >> >> Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards >> Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as >> blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small >> hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida. >> >> I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where >> flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and >> leaves hardy 1 cm in length. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> On 4/22/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Thanks, Anil ji. >> > I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details >> closely >> > of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences >> between >> > the two. >> > >> > >> > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 5:58 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Respected Garg Ji >> >> >> >> As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of >> >> Campanula found in H.P. >> >> >> >> FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. Wadhwa, >> 1984 >> >> >> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and Kinnaur) >> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and Lahul & >> >> Spiti) >> >> 3. Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S) >> >> 4. Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur) >> >> 5. Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S) >> >> 6. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. (Chamba, >> >> Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as >> >> well as plains) >> >> 7. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >> >> 8. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >> >> >> >> FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 >> >> 1. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >> >> 2. Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) and also >> >> included Campanula cana Wall. under this. >> >> 3. Campanula latifolia L. >> >> >> >> FLORA OF BASHAHR (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. Nair, >> >> 1977 >> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson >> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >> >> 3. Campanula cana Wall. >> >> 4. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >> >> 5. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and >> >> Campanula >> >> ramulosa Wall. >> >> 6. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >> >> 7. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >> >> >> >> FLORA OF SIRMAUR (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. Sharma, >> >> 2004 >> >> 1. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >> >> benthamii >> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >> >> 2. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >> >> >> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. >> >> Sharma, 2006 >> >> 1. Campanula cana Wall. >> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >> >> benthamii >> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >> >> >> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. >> >> Sharma, 2006 >> >> 1. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >> >> benthamii >> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula colorata >> >> Wall. >> >> 4. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu >> >> >> >> >> >> REGARDS >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Thanks, Anil ji. >> >> > After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very difficult >> to >> >> > segregate. Keys in Flora of China >> >> > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> >> are >> >> > also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close. >> >> > *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time >> >> > being.* >> >> > May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations as >> >> > mentioned in Flora Simlensis. >> >> > I think Tabish ji will also agree for this. >> >> > >> >> > On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Thank you, Garg ji >> >> >> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. >> >> >> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) >> and >> >> >> included C. canescens and C. cana under this. >> >> >> >> >> >> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not >> erect >> >> as >> >> >> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned >> in >> >> >> Flora >> >> >> Simlensis but with bluish flowers . >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> I think this may be Campanula pallida >> >> >>> < >> >> >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida >> >> > >> >> >>> as >> >> >>> per images and keys at Flora of China >> >> >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395 >> > >> >> >>> (Hypanthium >> >> >>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly >> >> >>> triangular, >> >> >>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), >> >> >>> margin >> >> >>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida* >> >> >>> < >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018 >> >> >) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> >>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >> >> >>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32 >> >> >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25 >> >> >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Campanula cana >> >> >>> Shimla >> >> >>> March/April >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> With best Regards, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> >>> Groups >> >> >>> "efloraofindia" group. >> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> >> >>> send >> >> >>> an >> >> >>> email to [email protected]. >> >> >>> To post to this group, send an email to >> >> >>> [email protected] >> >> . >> >> >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> With regards, >> >> >>> J.M.Garg >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> >> >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> >> >>> < >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >> >> >>> Flora, >> >> >>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> >> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >> in >> >> the >> >> >>> world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >> >> >>> Efloraofindia >> >> >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >> >> >>> species >> >> >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> >> >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >> than a >> >> >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >> >> >>> Plants >> >> >>> etc. >> >> >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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