We should take all our posts as pallida, until somebody can prove that both are different in view of wide ranging confusions in different floras.
On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:56 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> wrote: > Then all my posts are C. pallida ! > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, Garg ji >> >> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:12 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Anil ji, >>> If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula pallida. >>> >>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 6:30 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA >>>> >>>> 1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long >>>> ................. >>>> >>>> 2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long ..............C. >>>> dimorphantha (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii ) >>>> >>>> 2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long .................. >>>> C. cana >>>> >>>> 1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8 >>>> mm long >>>> ............................................................................................... >>>> C. pallida >>>> >>>> >>>> Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards >>>> Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as >>>> blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small >>>> hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida. >>>> >>>> I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where >>>> flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and >>>> leaves hardy 1 cm in length. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/22/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Thanks, Anil ji. >>>> > I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details >>>> closely >>>> > of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences >>>> between >>>> > the two. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 5:58 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < >>>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Respected Garg Ji >>>> >> >>>> >> As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of >>>> >> Campanula found in H.P. >>>> >> >>>> >> FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. Wadhwa, >>>> 1984 >>>> >> >>>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and Kinnaur) >>>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and Lahul >>>> & >>>> >> Spiti) >>>> >> 3. Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S) >>>> >> 4. Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>>> >> 5. Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S) >>>> >> 6. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>>> (Chamba, >>>> >> Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as >>>> >> well as plains) >>>> >> 7. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >>>> >> 8. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>>> >> >>>> >> FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 >>>> >> 1. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >>>> >> 2. Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) and >>>> also >>>> >> included Campanula cana Wall. under this. >>>> >> 3. Campanula latifolia L. >>>> >> >>>> >> FLORA OF BASHAHR (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. >>>> Nair, >>>> >> 1977 >>>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson >>>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >>>> >> 3. Campanula cana Wall. >>>> >> 4. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >>>> >> 5. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and >>>> >> Campanula >>>> >> ramulosa Wall. >>>> >> 6. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >>>> >> 7. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>>> >> >>>> >> FLORA OF SIRMAUR (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. Sharma, >>>> >> 2004 >>>> >> 1. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>>> >> benthamii >>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>>> >> 2. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>>> >> >>>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. >>>> >> Sharma, 2006 >>>> >> 1. Campanula cana Wall. >>>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>>> >> benthamii >>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>>> >> >>>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. >>>> >> Sharma, 2006 >>>> >> 1. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >>>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>>> >> benthamii >>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula colorata >>>> >> Wall. >>>> >> 4. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> REGARDS >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> > Thanks, Anil ji. >>>> >> > After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very >>>> difficult to >>>> >> > segregate. Keys in Flora of China >>>> >> > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> >>>> are >>>> >> > also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close. >>>> >> > *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time >>>> >> > being.* >>>> >> > May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations >>>> as >>>> >> > mentioned in Flora Simlensis. >>>> >> > I think Tabish ji will also agree for this. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>>> >> [email protected]> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> Thank you, Garg ji >>>> >> >> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. >>>> >> >> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) >>>> and >>>> >> >> included C. canescens and C. cana under this. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not >>>> erect >>>> >> as >>>> >> >> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha >>>> mentioned in >>>> >> >> Flora >>>> >> >> Simlensis but with bluish flowers . >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Regards >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> I think this may be Campanula pallida >>>> >> >>> < >>>> >> >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>> as >>>> >> >>> per images and keys at Flora of China >>>> >> >>> < >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> >>>> >> >>> (Hypanthium >>>> >> >>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly >>>> >> >>> triangular, >>>> >> >>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along >>>> veins), >>>> >> >>> margin >>>> >> >>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida* >>>> >> >>> < >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018 >>>> >> >) >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> >> >>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >>>> >> >>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32 >>>> >> >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25 >>>> >> >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Campanula cana >>>> >> >>> Shimla >>>> >> >>> March/April >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> With best Regards, >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google >>>> >> >>> Groups >>>> >> >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> >> >>> send >>>> >> >>> an >>>> >> >>> email to [email protected]. >>>> >> >>> To post to this group, send an email to >>>> >> >>> [email protected] >>>> >> . >>>> >> >>> Visit this group at >>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >> >>> With regards, >>>> >> >>> J.M.Garg >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> >> >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> >> >>> < >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>> Indian >>>> >> >>> Flora, >>>> >> >>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> >> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>> (largest in >>>> >> the >>>> >> >>> world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>>> >> >>> Efloraofindia >>>> >> >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>> >> >>> species >>>> >> >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> >> >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>> than a >>>> >> >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>> >> >>> Plants >>>> >> >>> etc. >>>> >> >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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