Thanks, Anil ji On Mon 23 Apr, 2018, 11:18 AM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < [email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/23/18, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <[email protected]> wrote: > > Garg Ji > > Adding descriptions from FLORA OF CHAMBA > > > > On 4/22/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, you should and point out the corrections needed. > >> > >> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 8:39 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Should I go through Campanula species at efloraofindia?? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 8:38 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Yes, Garg ji > >>>> Sir Henry Collett in Flora Simlensis considered C. cana and C. pallida > >>>> as > >>>> same and had put them under C. colorata. > >>>> It means, even he was not able to differentiate between them. > >>>> > >>>> Regards > >>>> > >>>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 8:33 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We should take all our posts as pallida, until somebody can prove > that > >>>>> both are different in view of wide ranging confusions in different > >>>>> floras. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:56 PM Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Then all my posts are C. pallida ! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, Garg ji > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:12 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks, Anil ji, > >>>>>>>> If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula > >>>>>>>> pallida. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 6:30 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < > >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm > >>>>>>>>> long > >>>>>>>>> ................. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long > >>>>>>>>> ..............C. > >>>>>>>>> dimorphantha (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii ) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long > >>>>>>>>> .................. C. cana > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes > >>>>>>>>> 4.5-8 > >>>>>>>>> mm long > >>>>>>>>> > ............................................................................................... > >>>>>>>>> C. pallida > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards > >>>>>>>>> Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as > >>>>>>>>> blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small > >>>>>>>>> hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. > >>>>>>>>> pallida. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where > >>>>>>>>> flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> leaves hardy 1 cm in length. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 4/22/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > Thanks, Anil ji. > >>>>>>>>> > I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing > >>>>>>>>> > details > >>>>>>>>> closely > >>>>>>>>> > of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear > >>>>>>>>> > differences > >>>>>>>>> between > >>>>>>>>> > the two. > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 5:58 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < > >>>>>>>>> > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> >> Respected Garg Ji > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species > >>>>>>>>> >> of > >>>>>>>>> >> Campanula found in H.P. > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. > >>>>>>>>> Wadhwa, 1984 > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and > >>>>>>>>> Kinnaur) > >>>>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and > >>>>>>>>> Lahul & > >>>>>>>>> >> Spiti) > >>>>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S) > >>>>>>>>> >> 4. Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur) > >>>>>>>>> >> 5. Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S) > >>>>>>>>> >> 6. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. > >>>>>>>>> (Chamba, > >>>>>>>>> >> Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from > hills > >>>>>>>>> >> as > >>>>>>>>> >> well as plains) > >>>>>>>>> >> 7. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans > >>>>>>>>> >> L&S) > >>>>>>>>> >> 8. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and > >>>>>>>>> >> Kinnaur) > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 > >>>>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. > >>>>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) > >>>>>>>>> and also > >>>>>>>>> >> included Campanula cana Wall. under this. > >>>>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula latifolia L. > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> FLORA OF BASHAHR (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by > >>>>>>>>> >> N.C. > >>>>>>>>> Nair, > >>>>>>>>> >> 1977 > >>>>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson > >>>>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. > >>>>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula cana Wall. > >>>>>>>>> >> 4. Campanula cashmeriana Royle > >>>>>>>>> >> 5. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. > >>>>>>>>> >> and > >>>>>>>>> >> Campanula > >>>>>>>>> >> ramulosa Wall. > >>>>>>>>> >> 6. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans > >>>>>>>>> >> L&S) > >>>>>>>>> >> 7. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and > >>>>>>>>> >> Kinnaur) > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> FLORA OF SIRMAUR (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. > >>>>>>>>> Sharma, > >>>>>>>>> >> 2004 > >>>>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. > >>>>>>>>> >> Campanula > >>>>>>>>> >> benthamii > >>>>>>>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. > >>>>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh > >>>>>>>>> >> & > >>>>>>>>> M. > >>>>>>>>> >> Sharma, 2006 > >>>>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula cana Wall. > >>>>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. > >>>>>>>>> >> Campanula > >>>>>>>>> >> benthamii > >>>>>>>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. > >>>>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh > >>>>>>>>> >> & > >>>>>>>>> M. > >>>>>>>>> >> Sharma, 2006 > >>>>>>>>> >> 1. Campanula cashmeriana Royle > >>>>>>>>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. > >>>>>>>>> >> Campanula > >>>>>>>>> >> benthamii > >>>>>>>>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. > >>>>>>>>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula > >>>>>>>>> colorata > >>>>>>>>> >> Wall. > >>>>>>>>> >> 4. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> REGARDS > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> >> > Thanks, Anil ji. > >>>>>>>>> >> > After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very > >>>>>>>>> difficult to > >>>>>>>>> >> > segregate. Keys in Flora of China > >>>>>>>>> >> > < > >>>>>>>>> > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> > >>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> >> > also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very > >>>>>>>>> close. > >>>>>>>>> >> > *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the > >>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>> >> > being.* > >>>>>>>>> >> > May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with > >>>>>>>>> citations as > >>>>>>>>> >> > mentioned in Flora Simlensis. > >>>>>>>>> >> > I think Tabish ji will also agree for this. > >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>> >> > On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < > >>>>>>>>> >> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> >> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Thank you, Garg ji > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. > >>>>>>>>> colorata) and > >>>>>>>>> >> >> included C. canescens and C. cana under this. > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent > and > >>>>>>>>> not erect > >>>>>>>>> >> as > >>>>>>>>> >> >> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha > >>>>>>>>> mentioned in > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Flora > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Simlensis but with bluish flowers . > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> Regards > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, < > [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> I think this may be Campanula pallida > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> < > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida > >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> as > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> per images and keys at Flora of China > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> < > >>>>>>>>> > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> (Hypanthium > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> narrowly > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> triangular, > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only > along > >>>>>>>>> veins), > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> margin > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida* > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> < > >>>>>>>>> > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018 > >>>>>>>>> >> >) > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32 > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> ATJUNE2016/25 > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Campanula cana > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Shimla > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> March/April > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> -- > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> With best Regards, > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> -- > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to > the > >>>>>>>>> Google > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Groups > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> "efloraofindia" group. > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> from > >>>>>>>>> it, > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> send > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> an > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> To post to this group, send an email to > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> >> . > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Visit this group at > >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> -- > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> With regards, > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> J.M.Garg > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> < > >>>>>>>>> > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>> >. > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation > of > >>>>>>>>> Indian > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Flora, > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> > >>>>>>>>> (largest in > >>>>>>>>> >> the > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> or > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Efloraofindia > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> (with > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> species > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of > >>>>>>>>> more than a > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, > >>>>>>>>> Butterflies, > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> Plants > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> etc. > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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