Then all my posts are C. pallida ! Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < [email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Garg ji > > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 7:12 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Anil ji, >> If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula pallida. >> >> On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 6:30 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA >>> >>> 1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long >>> ................. >>> >>> 2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long ..............C. >>> dimorphantha (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii ) >>> >>> 2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long .................. C. >>> cana >>> >>> 1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8 >>> mm long ............................................................ >>> ................................... >>> C. pallida >>> >>> >>> Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards >>> Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as >>> blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small >>> hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida. >>> >>> I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where >>> flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and >>> leaves hardy 1 cm in length. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/22/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Thanks, Anil ji. >>> > I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details >>> closely >>> > of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences >>> between >>> > the two. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun 22 Apr, 2018, 5:58 PM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur, < >>> > [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Respected Garg Ji >>> >> >>> >> As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of >>> >> Campanula found in H.P. >>> >> >>> >> FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. Wadhwa, >>> 1984 >>> >> >>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and Kinnaur) >>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and Lahul & >>> >> Spiti) >>> >> 3. Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S) >>> >> 4. Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>> >> 5. Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S) >>> >> 6. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. (Chamba, >>> >> Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as >>> >> well as plains) >>> >> 7. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >>> >> 8. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>> >> >>> >> FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902 >>> >> 1. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >>> >> 2. Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) and >>> also >>> >> included Campanula cana Wall. under this. >>> >> 3. Campanula latifolia L. >>> >> >>> >> FLORA OF BASHAHR (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. Nair, >>> >> 1977 >>> >> 1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson >>> >> 2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. >>> >> 3. Campanula cana Wall. >>> >> 4. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >>> >> 5. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and >>> >> Campanula >>> >> ramulosa Wall. >>> >> 6. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S) >>> >> 7. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur) >>> >> >>> >> FLORA OF SIRMAUR (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. Sharma, >>> >> 2004 >>> >> 1. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>> >> benthamii >>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>> >> 2. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>> >> >>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. >>> >> Sharma, 2006 >>> >> 1. Campanula cana Wall. >>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>> >> benthamii >>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. >>> >> >>> >> FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. >>> >> Sharma, 2006 >>> >> 1. Campanula cashmeriana Royle >>> >> 2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula >>> >> benthamii >>> >> Wall. ex Kitam. >>> >> 3. Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula colorata >>> >> Wall. >>> >> 4. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> REGARDS >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > Thanks, Anil ji. >>> >> > After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very >>> difficult to >>> >> > segregate. Keys in Flora of China >>> >> > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> >>> are >>> >> > also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close. >>> >> > *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time >>> >> > being.* >>> >> > May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations as >>> >> > mentioned in Flora Simlensis. >>> >> > I think Tabish ji will also agree for this. >>> >> > >>> >> > On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>> >> [email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> Thank you, Garg ji >>> >> >> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. >>> >> >> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) >>> and >>> >> >> included C. canescens and C. cana under this. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not >>> erect >>> >> as >>> >> >> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned >>> in >>> >> >> Flora >>> >> >> Simlensis but with bluish flowers . >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Regards >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> I think this may be Campanula pallida >>> >> >>> < >>> >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/ >>> campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida >>> >> > >>> >> >>> as >>> >> >>> per images and keys at Flora of China >>> >> >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&; >>> taxon_id=105395> >>> >> >>> (Hypanthium >>> >> >>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly >>> >> >>> triangular, >>> >> >>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along >>> veins), >>> >> >>> margin >>> >> >>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida* >>> >> >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&; >>> taxon_id=242421018 >>> >> >) >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> >> >>> From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32 >>> >> >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25 >>> >> >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Campanula cana >>> >> >>> Shimla >>> >> >>> March/April >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> With best Regards, >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> >>> Groups >>> >> >>> "efloraofindia" group. >>> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> >> >>> send >>> >> >>> an >>> >> >>> email to [email protected]. >>> >> >>> To post to this group, send an email to >>> >> >>> [email protected] >>> >> . >>> >> >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>> . >>> >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> With regards, >>> >> >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> >> >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> >> >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for- >>> efloraofindia>. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> >> >>> Flora, >>> >> >>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> >> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>> in >>> >> the >>> >> >>> world- around 2975 members & 2,90,000 messages on 31.3.18) or >>> >> >>> Efloraofindia >>> >> >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>> >> >>> species >>> >> >>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images). >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> >> >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>> than a >>> >> >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>> >> >>> Plants >>> >> >>> etc. >>> >> >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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