Thanks everybody for very interesting discussions, particularly from our three stalwards.
On Wed 12 Sep, 2018, 10:49 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Usha di for your good words. > There is nothing on a person in this thread but only discussion going on. > Pankaj ji is a bright researcher and I know about his work via RG. > I intentionally attached here two articles that highlight the need of a > national Flora. > There is indeed shortage of taxonomists capable of bringing out our Flora. > Flora of China is the brainchild of Dr. Peter Raven and Flora Malesiana > was initiated in the Fifties by Dr. Van Steenis. Flora of India was > initiated in 1978 by BSI and they were obviously inspired by Fl. Malesiana. > While Fl. China was completed in record time, through partial revisions, > Fl. Malesiana is taking generations because of the high standard > monographic studies. > I feel that it is now high time to switch over to China model and bring > out a workable Flora and then we can continue monographic studies including > molecular phylogenetics. > Taxonomic research is partly based on literature and partly on herbarium > material. > Previously it was very difficult to get access to classical literature as > well as the specimens distributed to the European herbaria. > The Leiden herbarium had uploaded all their digitized specimens (including > Utrecht) in their website about two years back and last month they uploaded > all Volumes of Blumea including Blumea Supplements for free access. > In India, we have to depend on the library holdings for literature. > Fortunately BHL (again thanks go to Missouri Botanic Garden) scanned most > of the classical taxonomic literature and uploaded for free access. > With most of the European herbaria putting digital images of types in > their websites or at least to JSTOR, it is now easy to carry out taxonomic > research in Indian context with much confidence. > Within our country we have to visit various herbaria for consultation. > Loan has been discontinued. Type specimens images available only on > request. > With the advent of digital photography there is a resurgence in field > photography and almost all publications are now bringing out excellent > images of plants. > To conclude, a dedicated teamwork seems necessary to bring out a workable > Flora with partial revisionary studies. > The Library at Indian Museum is now almost non-functional and going > without any addition. However, the Library in the Central National > Herbarium is possibly the best in India from taxonomic point of view. > Thanks and regards, > Tapas > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 21:50 Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Pankaj: >> well, if i recall you were in Dehra dun and had sent me a birds call cd >> and in some other thread said cant find sitaphal up there >> >> but I had them here just coming to market in large numbers >> and so i offered to send you a few kgs >> i dont remember sending them to you, may be you demurred? >> but we talked of dragon fruit and sitaphal etc... that you had in HK? >> >> well , never mind. >> be happy usha di >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Sitaphal? >>> >>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Tapasda >>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list >>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf >>>> >>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books >>>> i generally find them >>>> >>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that >>>> >>>> = >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications and many >>>>> are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the modern plant >>>>> taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. It was very >>>>> difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and Botanicus era. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>> "There are proper books " >>>>>> any modern ones??? >>>>>> >>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other plants >>>>>>>>> I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well documented flora and >>>>>>>>> fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper books and >>>>>>>>> online >>>>>>>>> materials to check. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>> **************************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>> **************************************************************** >>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ****************************************************** >>> **************************************************************** >>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>> >>> *Office*: >>> >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>> >>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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