First time a collaboration has started between India (BSI) and the Natural History Museum, London through positive initiative of MOEF & CC. Hope further collaboration with other Institutions will take place in near future to achieve the target.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 15:05 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Tapas ji. > Some dynamic out of the world leadership is required to deliver such big > projects. > > On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 2:45 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Saroj ji, >> If we look at History, we find that it were the initiatives of some >> persons which held. In case of Nepal, it was Hiroshi Hara, who realized >> some similarities between floristic elements of Japan and East Himalayas, >> initiated extensive efforts and brought out the Flora of East Himalayas. >> For Pakistan, it was Prof. Nasir who invited experts for help in preparing >> Flora of West Pakistan. In Sri Lanka, Dr. Dassanayake delivered the job. As >> regards Bhutan, their Govt invited BSI for their Flora and BSI carried out >> a number of field trips and brought out Materials for the Flora of Bhutan >> but they never published any further. After a reasonable wait, the Govt of >> Bhutan invited the officials at Endiburgh Botanic Garden and finally Dr. >> Grierson and Dr. DG Long were the key persons who brought out Flora of >> Bhutan. In Bangladesh, some Botanists are showing interest now. Even a >> Chinese team has now initiated a Project on Flora of Myanmar. The people at >> Leiden have brought out Flora of Thailand as per request of Thai Govt. >> In India, we need a dynamic stewardship to see through our Flora which >> can be achieved through integrated and co-ordinated efforts. >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 12:45 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Well said, Ushadi. >>> >>> On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 11:11 AM Ushadi Micromini, < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Saroj ji >>>> we are all in the same boat >>>> as they say in the west... >>>> govt makes haste very slowly!!! >>>> >>>> go figure. >>>> >>>> but to tell you the truth, Saroj i >>>> you are making a very concerted valiant effort in numbers and range >>>> and soon you will have enough to start thinking of publishing your own >>>> findings >>>> such as "botanical finds of a citizen scientist " >>>> or "walk with me" kind of series >>>> or some such. >>>> and coming folks will refer to your books >>>> and build upon that >>>> >>>> every bit counts >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear all! >>>>> >>>>> Like this nice खटपट 😁however so imformative! By the way Nepal is way >>>>> behin. Go vernment officials do no deliver the responsibility they are >>>>> intrusted . Nepal supposed to publish 10 volumes of Flora of Nepal in >>>>> support of RBGE but only one volume 3 is published so far ! >>>>> >>>>> You guys are quite lucky in this regard I guess. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 09:40 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks everybody for very interesting discussions, particularly from >>>>>> our three stalwards. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed 12 Sep, 2018, 10:49 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Usha di for your good words. >>>>>>> There is nothing on a person in this thread but only discussion >>>>>>> going on. >>>>>>> Pankaj ji is a bright researcher and I know about his work via RG. >>>>>>> I intentionally attached here two articles that highlight the need >>>>>>> of a national Flora. >>>>>>> There is indeed shortage of taxonomists capable of bringing out our >>>>>>> Flora. >>>>>>> Flora of China is the brainchild of Dr. Peter Raven and Flora >>>>>>> Malesiana was initiated in the Fifties by Dr. Van Steenis. Flora of >>>>>>> India >>>>>>> was initiated in 1978 by BSI and they were obviously inspired by Fl. >>>>>>> Malesiana. While Fl. China was completed in record time, through partial >>>>>>> revisions, Fl. Malesiana is taking generations because of the high >>>>>>> standard >>>>>>> monographic studies. >>>>>>> I feel that it is now high time to switch over to China model and >>>>>>> bring out a workable Flora and then we can continue monographic studies >>>>>>> including molecular phylogenetics. >>>>>>> Taxonomic research is partly based on literature and partly on >>>>>>> herbarium material. >>>>>>> Previously it was very difficult to get access to classical >>>>>>> literature as well as the specimens distributed to the European >>>>>>> herbaria. >>>>>>> The Leiden herbarium had uploaded all their digitized specimens >>>>>>> (including Utrecht) in their website about two years back and last month >>>>>>> they uploaded all Volumes of Blumea including Blumea Supplements for >>>>>>> free >>>>>>> access. >>>>>>> In India, we have to depend on the library holdings for literature. >>>>>>> Fortunately BHL (again thanks go to Missouri Botanic Garden) scanned >>>>>>> most >>>>>>> of the classical taxonomic literature and uploaded for free access. >>>>>>> With most of the European herbaria putting digital images of types >>>>>>> in their websites or at least to JSTOR, it is now easy to carry out >>>>>>> taxonomic research in Indian context with much confidence. >>>>>>> Within our country we have to visit various herbaria for >>>>>>> consultation. Loan has been discontinued. Type specimens images >>>>>>> available >>>>>>> only on request. >>>>>>> With the advent of digital photography there is a resurgence in >>>>>>> field photography and almost all publications are now bringing out >>>>>>> excellent images of plants. >>>>>>> To conclude, a dedicated teamwork seems necessary to bring out a >>>>>>> workable Flora with partial revisionary studies. >>>>>>> The Library at Indian Museum is now almost non-functional and going >>>>>>> without any addition. However, the Library in the Central National >>>>>>> Herbarium is possibly the best in India from taxonomic point of view. >>>>>>> Thanks and regards, >>>>>>> Tapas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 21:50 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pankaj: >>>>>>>> well, if i recall you were in Dehra dun and had sent me a birds >>>>>>>> call cd >>>>>>>> and in some other thread said cant find sitaphal up there >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but I had them here just coming to market in large numbers >>>>>>>> and so i offered to send you a few kgs >>>>>>>> i dont remember sending them to you, may be you demurred? >>>>>>>> but we talked of dragon fruit and sitaphal etc... that you had in >>>>>>>> HK? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> well , never mind. >>>>>>>> be happy usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sitaphal? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tapasda >>>>>>>>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list >>>>>>>>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books >>>>>>>>>> i generally find them >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications >>>>>>>>>>> and many are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the >>>>>>>>>>> modern >>>>>>>>>>> plant taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. >>>>>>>>>>> It was >>>>>>>>>>> very difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and >>>>>>>>>>> Botanicus >>>>>>>>>>> era. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>> "There are proper books " >>>>>>>>>>>> any modern ones??? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plants I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documented flora >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online materials to check. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; 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