Well said, Ushadi. On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 11:11 AM Ushadi Micromini, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Saroj ji > we are all in the same boat > as they say in the west... > govt makes haste very slowly!!! > > go figure. > > but to tell you the truth, Saroj i > you are making a very concerted valiant effort in numbers and range > and soon you will have enough to start thinking of publishing your own > findings > such as "botanical finds of a citizen scientist " > or "walk with me" kind of series > or some such. > and coming folks will refer to your books > and build upon that > > every bit counts > usha di > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear all! >> >> Like this nice खटपट 😁however so imformative! By the way Nepal is way >> behin. Go vernment officials do no deliver the responsibility they are >> intrusted . Nepal supposed to publish 10 volumes of Flora of Nepal in >> support of RBGE but only one volume 3 is published so far ! >> >> You guys are quite lucky in this regard I guess. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 09:40 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks everybody for very interesting discussions, particularly from our >>> three stalwards. >>> >>> On Wed 12 Sep, 2018, 10:49 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Usha di for your good words. >>>> There is nothing on a person in this thread but only discussion going >>>> on. >>>> Pankaj ji is a bright researcher and I know about his work via RG. >>>> I intentionally attached here two articles that highlight the need of a >>>> national Flora. >>>> There is indeed shortage of taxonomists capable of bringing out our >>>> Flora. >>>> Flora of China is the brainchild of Dr. Peter Raven and Flora >>>> Malesiana was initiated in the Fifties by Dr. Van Steenis. Flora of India >>>> was initiated in 1978 by BSI and they were obviously inspired by Fl. >>>> Malesiana. While Fl. China was completed in record time, through partial >>>> revisions, Fl. Malesiana is taking generations because of the high standard >>>> monographic studies. >>>> I feel that it is now high time to switch over to China model and bring >>>> out a workable Flora and then we can continue monographic studies including >>>> molecular phylogenetics. >>>> Taxonomic research is partly based on literature and partly on >>>> herbarium material. >>>> Previously it was very difficult to get access to classical literature >>>> as well as the specimens distributed to the European herbaria. >>>> The Leiden herbarium had uploaded all their digitized specimens >>>> (including Utrecht) in their website about two years back and last month >>>> they uploaded all Volumes of Blumea including Blumea Supplements for free >>>> access. >>>> In India, we have to depend on the library holdings for literature. >>>> Fortunately BHL (again thanks go to Missouri Botanic Garden) scanned most >>>> of the classical taxonomic literature and uploaded for free access. >>>> With most of the European herbaria putting digital images of types in >>>> their websites or at least to JSTOR, it is now easy to carry out taxonomic >>>> research in Indian context with much confidence. >>>> Within our country we have to visit various herbaria for consultation. >>>> Loan has been discontinued. Type specimens images available only on >>>> request. >>>> With the advent of digital photography there is a resurgence in field >>>> photography and almost all publications are now bringing out excellent >>>> images of plants. >>>> To conclude, a dedicated teamwork seems necessary to bring out a >>>> workable Flora with partial revisionary studies. >>>> The Library at Indian Museum is now almost non-functional and going >>>> without any addition. However, the Library in the Central National >>>> Herbarium is possibly the best in India from taxonomic point of view. >>>> Thanks and regards, >>>> Tapas >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 21:50 Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pankaj: >>>>> well, if i recall you were in Dehra dun and had sent me a birds call >>>>> cd >>>>> and in some other thread said cant find sitaphal up there >>>>> >>>>> but I had them here just coming to market in large numbers >>>>> and so i offered to send you a few kgs >>>>> i dont remember sending them to you, may be you demurred? >>>>> but we talked of dragon fruit and sitaphal etc... that you had in HK? >>>>> >>>>> well , never mind. >>>>> be happy usha di >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sitaphal? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tapasda >>>>>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list >>>>>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books >>>>>>> i generally find them >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that >>>>>>> >>>>>>> = >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications and >>>>>>>> many are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the modern >>>>>>>> plant >>>>>>>> taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. It was >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and Botanicus >>>>>>>> era. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>> "There are proper books " >>>>>>>>> any modern ones??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other >>>>>>>>>>>> plants I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well >>>>>>>>>>>> documented flora >>>>>>>>>>>> and fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper books >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> online materials to check. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>> **************************************************************** >>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>> >>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>> >>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>> >>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>> >>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>>>>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>> > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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