Saroj ji we are all in the same boat as they say in the west... govt makes haste very slowly!!!
go figure. but to tell you the truth, Saroj i you are making a very concerted valiant effort in numbers and range and soon you will have enough to start thinking of publishing your own findings such as "botanical finds of a citizen scientist " or "walk with me" kind of series or some such. and coming folks will refer to your books and build upon that every bit counts usha di On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear all! > > Like this nice खटपट 😁however so imformative! By the way Nepal is way > behin. Go vernment officials do no deliver the responsibility they are > intrusted . Nepal supposed to publish 10 volumes of Flora of Nepal in > support of RBGE but only one volume 3 is published so far ! > > You guys are quite lucky in this regard I guess. > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 09:40 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks everybody for very interesting discussions, particularly from our >> three stalwards. >> >> On Wed 12 Sep, 2018, 10:49 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Usha di for your good words. >>> There is nothing on a person in this thread but only discussion going on. >>> Pankaj ji is a bright researcher and I know about his work via RG. >>> I intentionally attached here two articles that highlight the need of a >>> national Flora. >>> There is indeed shortage of taxonomists capable of bringing out our >>> Flora. >>> Flora of China is the brainchild of Dr. Peter Raven and Flora Malesiana >>> was initiated in the Fifties by Dr. Van Steenis. Flora of India was >>> initiated in 1978 by BSI and they were obviously inspired by Fl. Malesiana. >>> While Fl. China was completed in record time, through partial revisions, >>> Fl. Malesiana is taking generations because of the high standard >>> monographic studies. >>> I feel that it is now high time to switch over to China model and bring >>> out a workable Flora and then we can continue monographic studies including >>> molecular phylogenetics. >>> Taxonomic research is partly based on literature and partly on herbarium >>> material. >>> Previously it was very difficult to get access to classical literature >>> as well as the specimens distributed to the European herbaria. >>> The Leiden herbarium had uploaded all their digitized specimens >>> (including Utrecht) in their website about two years back and last month >>> they uploaded all Volumes of Blumea including Blumea Supplements for free >>> access. >>> In India, we have to depend on the library holdings for literature. >>> Fortunately BHL (again thanks go to Missouri Botanic Garden) scanned most >>> of the classical taxonomic literature and uploaded for free access. >>> With most of the European herbaria putting digital images of types in >>> their websites or at least to JSTOR, it is now easy to carry out taxonomic >>> research in Indian context with much confidence. >>> Within our country we have to visit various herbaria for consultation. >>> Loan has been discontinued. Type specimens images available only on >>> request. >>> With the advent of digital photography there is a resurgence in field >>> photography and almost all publications are now bringing out excellent >>> images of plants. >>> To conclude, a dedicated teamwork seems necessary to bring out a >>> workable Flora with partial revisionary studies. >>> The Library at Indian Museum is now almost non-functional and going >>> without any addition. However, the Library in the Central National >>> Herbarium is possibly the best in India from taxonomic point of view. >>> Thanks and regards, >>> Tapas >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 21:50 Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Pankaj: >>>> well, if i recall you were in Dehra dun and had sent me a birds call cd >>>> and in some other thread said cant find sitaphal up there >>>> >>>> but I had them here just coming to market in large numbers >>>> and so i offered to send you a few kgs >>>> i dont remember sending them to you, may be you demurred? >>>> but we talked of dragon fruit and sitaphal etc... that you had in HK? >>>> >>>> well , never mind. >>>> be happy usha di >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sitaphal? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Tapasda >>>>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list >>>>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books >>>>>> i generally find them >>>>>> >>>>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that >>>>>> >>>>>> = >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications and >>>>>>> many are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the modern plant >>>>>>> taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. It was >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and Botanicus era. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>> "There are proper books " >>>>>>>> any modern ones??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other >>>>>>>>>>> plants I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well documented >>>>>>>>>>> flora >>>>>>>>>>> and fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper books >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> online materials to check. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>>>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>>>>>>>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>>>>>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>> >>>>> *Office*: >>>>> >>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>> >>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>> >>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>> >>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>>>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>> -- Usha di =========== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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