Dear all!

Like this nice खटपट 😁however so imformative! By the way Nepal is way
behin. Go vernment officials do no deliver the responsibility they are
intrusted . Nepal supposed to publish 10 volumes of Flora of Nepal   in
support of RBGE but only one volume 3 is published so far !

You guys are quite lucky  in this regard I guess.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 09:40 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks everybody for very interesting discussions, particularly from our
> three stalwards.
>
> On Wed 12 Sep, 2018, 10:49 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Usha di for your good words.
>> There is nothing on a person in this thread but only discussion going on.
>> Pankaj ji is a bright researcher and I know about his work via RG.
>> I intentionally attached here two articles that highlight the need of a
>> national  Flora.
>> There is indeed shortage of taxonomists capable of bringing out our Flora.
>>  Flora of China is the brainchild of Dr. Peter Raven and Flora Malesiana
>> was initiated in the Fifties by Dr. Van Steenis. Flora of India was
>> initiated in 1978 by BSI and they were obviously inspired by Fl. Malesiana.
>> While Fl. China was completed in record time, through partial revisions,
>> Fl. Malesiana is taking generations because of the high standard
>> monographic studies.
>> I feel that it is now high time to switch over to China model and bring
>> out a workable Flora and then we can continue monographic studies including
>> molecular phylogenetics.
>> Taxonomic research is partly based on literature and partly on herbarium
>> material.
>> Previously it was very difficult to get access to classical literature as
>> well as the specimens distributed to the European herbaria.
>> The Leiden herbarium had uploaded all their digitized specimens
>> (including Utrecht) in their website about two years back and last month
>> they uploaded all Volumes of Blumea including Blumea Supplements for free
>> access.
>> In India, we have to depend on the library holdings for literature.
>> Fortunately BHL (again thanks go to Missouri Botanic Garden) scanned most
>> of the classical taxonomic literature and uploaded for free access.
>> With most of the European herbaria putting digital images of types in
>> their websites or at least to JSTOR, it is now easy to carry out taxonomic
>> research in Indian context with much confidence.
>> Within our country we have to visit various herbaria for consultation.
>> Loan has been discontinued. Type specimens images available only on
>> request.
>> With the advent of digital photography there is a resurgence in field
>> photography and almost all publications are now bringing out excellent
>> images of plants.
>> To conclude, a dedicated teamwork seems necessary to bring out a workable
>> Flora with partial revisionary studies.
>> The Library at Indian Museum is now almost non-functional and going
>> without any addition. However, the Library in the Central National
>> Herbarium is possibly the best in India from taxonomic point of view.
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Tapas
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 21:50 Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pankaj:
>>> well,  if i recall you were in Dehra dun and had sent me a birds call cd
>>> and in some other thread said cant find sitaphal up there
>>>
>>> but I had them here just coming to market in large numbers
>>> and so i offered to send you a few kgs
>>> i dont remember sending them to you, may be you demurred?
>>> but we talked of dragon fruit and sitaphal etc... that you had in HK?
>>>
>>> well , never mind.
>>> be happy   usha di
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sitaphal?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tapasda
>>>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list
>>>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books
>>>>> i generally find them
>>>>>
>>>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that
>>>>>
>>>>> =
>>>>> usha di
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications and
>>>>>> many are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the modern plant
>>>>>> taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. It was very
>>>>>> difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and Botanicus era.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>>> "There are proper books "
>>>>>>> any modern ones???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other
>>>>>>>>>> plants I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well documented 
>>>>>>>>>> flora
>>>>>>>>>> and fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper books 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> online materials to check.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji.
>>>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>>>>>>>> ***********************************************************
>>>>>>>>>>>> *****
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Office*:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436
>>>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>>
>>>> *Office*:
>>>>
>>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>>
>>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>>
>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>>
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>>>
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