Thanks, Tapas ji. Some dynamic out of the world leadership is required to deliver such big projects.
On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 2:45 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> wrote: > Saroj ji, > If we look at History, we find that it were the initiatives of some > persons which held. In case of Nepal, it was Hiroshi Hara, who realized > some similarities between floristic elements of Japan and East Himalayas, > initiated extensive efforts and brought out the Flora of East Himalayas. > For Pakistan, it was Prof. Nasir who invited experts for help in preparing > Flora of West Pakistan. In Sri Lanka, Dr. Dassanayake delivered the job. As > regards Bhutan, their Govt invited BSI for their Flora and BSI carried out > a number of field trips and brought out Materials for the Flora of Bhutan > but they never published any further. After a reasonable wait, the Govt of > Bhutan invited the officials at Endiburgh Botanic Garden and finally Dr. > Grierson and Dr. DG Long were the key persons who brought out Flora of > Bhutan. In Bangladesh, some Botanists are showing interest now. Even a > Chinese team has now initiated a Project on Flora of Myanmar. The people at > Leiden have brought out Flora of Thailand as per request of Thai Govt. > In India, we need a dynamic stewardship to see through our Flora which can > be achieved through integrated and co-ordinated efforts. > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 12:45 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well said, Ushadi. >> >> On Thu 13 Sep, 2018, 11:11 AM Ushadi Micromini, < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Saroj ji >>> we are all in the same boat >>> as they say in the west... >>> govt makes haste very slowly!!! >>> >>> go figure. >>> >>> but to tell you the truth, Saroj i >>> you are making a very concerted valiant effort in numbers and range >>> and soon you will have enough to start thinking of publishing your own >>> findings >>> such as "botanical finds of a citizen scientist " >>> or "walk with me" kind of series >>> or some such. >>> and coming folks will refer to your books >>> and build upon that >>> >>> every bit counts >>> usha di >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all! >>>> >>>> Like this nice खटपट 😁however so imformative! By the way Nepal is way >>>> behin. Go vernment officials do no deliver the responsibility they are >>>> intrusted . Nepal supposed to publish 10 volumes of Flora of Nepal in >>>> support of RBGE but only one volume 3 is published so far ! >>>> >>>> You guys are quite lucky in this regard I guess. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, 09:40 J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks everybody for very interesting discussions, particularly from >>>>> our three stalwards. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed 12 Sep, 2018, 10:49 PM Tapas Chakrabarty, <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Usha di for your good words. >>>>>> There is nothing on a person in this thread but only discussion going >>>>>> on. >>>>>> Pankaj ji is a bright researcher and I know about his work via RG. >>>>>> I intentionally attached here two articles that highlight the need of >>>>>> a national Flora. >>>>>> There is indeed shortage of taxonomists capable of bringing out our >>>>>> Flora. >>>>>> Flora of China is the brainchild of Dr. Peter Raven and Flora >>>>>> Malesiana was initiated in the Fifties by Dr. Van Steenis. Flora of India >>>>>> was initiated in 1978 by BSI and they were obviously inspired by Fl. >>>>>> Malesiana. While Fl. China was completed in record time, through partial >>>>>> revisions, Fl. Malesiana is taking generations because of the high >>>>>> standard >>>>>> monographic studies. >>>>>> I feel that it is now high time to switch over to China model and >>>>>> bring out a workable Flora and then we can continue monographic studies >>>>>> including molecular phylogenetics. >>>>>> Taxonomic research is partly based on literature and partly on >>>>>> herbarium material. >>>>>> Previously it was very difficult to get access to classical >>>>>> literature as well as the specimens distributed to the European herbaria. >>>>>> The Leiden herbarium had uploaded all their digitized specimens >>>>>> (including Utrecht) in their website about two years back and last month >>>>>> they uploaded all Volumes of Blumea including Blumea Supplements for free >>>>>> access. >>>>>> In India, we have to depend on the library holdings for literature. >>>>>> Fortunately BHL (again thanks go to Missouri Botanic Garden) scanned most >>>>>> of the classical taxonomic literature and uploaded for free access. >>>>>> With most of the European herbaria putting digital images of types in >>>>>> their websites or at least to JSTOR, it is now easy to carry out >>>>>> taxonomic >>>>>> research in Indian context with much confidence. >>>>>> Within our country we have to visit various herbaria for >>>>>> consultation. Loan has been discontinued. Type specimens images available >>>>>> only on request. >>>>>> With the advent of digital photography there is a resurgence in field >>>>>> photography and almost all publications are now bringing out excellent >>>>>> images of plants. >>>>>> To conclude, a dedicated teamwork seems necessary to bring out a >>>>>> workable Flora with partial revisionary studies. >>>>>> The Library at Indian Museum is now almost non-functional and going >>>>>> without any addition. However, the Library in the Central National >>>>>> Herbarium is possibly the best in India from taxonomic point of view. >>>>>> Thanks and regards, >>>>>> Tapas >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 21:50 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj: >>>>>>> well, if i recall you were in Dehra dun and had sent me a birds >>>>>>> call cd >>>>>>> and in some other thread said cant find sitaphal up there >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but I had them here just coming to market in large numbers >>>>>>> and so i offered to send you a few kgs >>>>>>> i dont remember sending them to you, may be you demurred? >>>>>>> but we talked of dragon fruit and sitaphal etc... that you had in HK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> well , never mind. >>>>>>> be happy usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sitaphal? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 15:44, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tapasda >>>>>>>>> yes Thank you for sharing the list >>>>>>>>> and often BHL / they dont let me download a book pdf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I find there are many other sources for these old books >>>>>>>>> i generally find them >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but old lists and descriptions are just that >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Tapas Chakrabarty < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Literature available in BHL are mostly classical publications and >>>>>>>>>> many are written in Latin but that is the foundation of the modern >>>>>>>>>> plant >>>>>>>>>> taxonomy; plant identification is only a part of the subject. It was >>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>> difficult to obtain classical literature prior to BHL and Botanicus >>>>>>>>>> era. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 01:37 Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>> "There are proper books " >>>>>>>>>>> any modern ones??? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the flora in bhl site is from 1800s >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:12 PM, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pavetta hongkongensis Bremek. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Pankaj ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:43 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 8:18 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No I have not. Yes I know the orchids well though but other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plants I need to check the keys. Hong Kong has very well >>>>>>>>>>>>>> documented flora >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fauna because it is a very small place. There are proper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> books and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> online materials to check. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 10:22, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have great knowledge of Flora of Hong Kong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue 11 Sep, 2018, 6:12 AM Pankaj Kumar, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks like Pavetta hongkongensis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 21:54, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Victoria Peak, Hong Kong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 12 August 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1300 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *********************************************************** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>>>> **************************************************************** >>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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