Thanks, Taffazull ji

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On Thu, 5 Jan, 2023, 2:30 pm [email protected], <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Garg ji,
> Thanks for the comment about FOP. Unfortunately their sketch does not show
> calyx. In fact they must have followed Kazimi the most towering authority
> there.
> Need expert opinion on this
> Here are more details about corolla
> *Corolla:*
> Corolla is very delicately attached to the flower and in two of them fell
> down as I was examining the calyx.
> The corolla is approximately infundibuliform (like an inverted bell).The
> lobes are very small about 1-1.5 mm as is visible from the photo'
> The tube has a slight sinuous bend at the bottom (See photo). As I will
> show in a subsequent post the style is very short and must remain in the
> bend.
> I speculate that this would be to avoid self pollination as the anthers
> are just below the throat. Indulging in further speculation one can surmise
> that the peculiar shape of the corolla suggests that the pollinator might
> be a moth or butterfly with a long proboscis which can descend to the
> bottom of the tube.
> Regards
> Taffazull
> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:58:53 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Taffazul ji.
>> But Flora of Pakistan
>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250084488>
>> says about *Nonea edgeworthii* A. DC. in DC. as 'Calyx 6-7 mm long, up
>> to 10 mm in fruit, dense hairy; lobes linear'
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 17:43, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *A Surprising fact about the calyx*
>>>
>>> Regarding the calyx Kazmi in his authoritative work writes under the
>>> heading *Nonea  Medicus ,Philos .Bot.1:31.1789.:*
>>>
>>> "Calyx 5-fid , shortly or for ½ of its length, never divided to the
>>> base, enlarged in fruit.."
>>>
>>> (SMA Kazimi : A Revision Of The Boraginaceae of West Pakistan And
>>> Kashmir(1971), Journal of Arnold Arboretum,pp670-71.).
>>>
>>> I had fortunately two flowers left in the plant I had transferred to the
>>> planter. I reexamined  the calyx and found it is divided to the base. This
>>> is also evident in the   fruit. (See photos).It thus seems to me that it is
>>> either a sub genus or something different. Would request the opinion of
>>> experts. Many features resemble the genus *Nonea *including position of
>>> anthers,  gynobasic very short style morphology and attachment of nutlet
>>> which I will put in a subsequent post.
>>>
>>>
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