Great Garg ji ! On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 3:42:47 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
> Thanks, Taffazull ji, for great details and analysis. > > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > On Thu, 5 Jan, 2023, 3:19 pm [email protected], <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Sorry clicked the post button inadvertently >> Prolate pollen is rather unusual in Nonea sp for in a study of 8 *Nonea >> *species >> only one had prolate pollen grains rest had subprolate (spherical with >> pointed ends)(See attached table). Though microscopic appearance of pollen >> grains is not diagnostic it can certainly rule out a candidate if the >> morphology is different >> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 3:01:57 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> *POLLEN* >>> Am posting photos of pollen grains which I got by teasing the anthers on >>> a glass slide with a pin. I managed to take the photos with a cheap >>> "Students Microscope" to which I have added an oil immersion lens and my >>> entry level digital camera (Sony DSC-W830). I think photos of pollen >>> grains are a first for eflora >>> as I have never seen them before. The pollen grains are prolate(cigar >>> shaped) with a single longitudinal furrow (sulcus) running from pole to >>> pole (monosulcate.) >>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 2:46:33 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Photo of Anthers >>>> >>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 2:44:55 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Anthers* >>>>> 5 stamens inserted in the corolla tube just below the throat (Three >>>>> are visible in the photo). The stalk by which they are >>>>> attached(filament) >>>>> is very short. >>>>> Peering from above one can see the anthers only in the intact flower. >>>>> In this feature it resembles *Nonea. *They are brownish yellow (see >>>>> photo) >>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 2:30:27 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>>> Thanks for the comment about FOP. Unfortunately their sketch does not >>>>>> show calyx. In fact they must have followed Kazimi the most towering >>>>>> authority there. >>>>>> Need expert opinion on this >>>>>> Here are more details about corolla >>>>>> *Corolla:* >>>>>> Corolla is very delicately attached to the flower and in two of them >>>>>> fell down as I was examining the calyx. >>>>>> The corolla is approximately infundibuliform (like an inverted >>>>>> bell).The lobes are very small about 1-1.5 mm as is visible from the >>>>>> photo' >>>>>> The tube has a slight sinuous bend at the bottom (See photo). As I >>>>>> will show in a subsequent post the style is very short and must remain >>>>>> in >>>>>> the bend. >>>>>> I speculate that this would be to avoid self pollination as the >>>>>> anthers are just below the throat. Indulging in further speculation one >>>>>> can >>>>>> surmise that the peculiar shape of the corolla suggests that the >>>>>> pollinator >>>>>> might be a moth or butterfly with a long proboscis which can descend to >>>>>> the >>>>>> bottom of the tube. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:58:53 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazul ji. >>>>>>> But Flora of Pakistan >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250084488> >>>>>>> says about *Nonea edgeworthii* A. DC. in DC. as 'Calyx 6-7 mm long, >>>>>>> up to 10 mm in fruit, dense hairy; lobes linear' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 17:43, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *A Surprising fact about the calyx* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regarding the calyx Kazmi in his authoritative work writes under >>>>>>>> the heading *Nonea Medicus ,Philos .Bot.1:31.1789.:* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Calyx 5-fid , shortly or for ½ of its length, never divided to the >>>>>>>> base, enlarged in fruit.." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (SMA Kazimi : A Revision Of The Boraginaceae of West Pakistan And >>>>>>>> Kashmir(1971), Journal of Arnold Arboretum,pp670-71.). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had fortunately two flowers left in the plant I had transferred >>>>>>>> to the planter. I reexamined the calyx and found it is divided to the >>>>>>>> base. This is also evident in the fruit. (See photos).It thus seems >>>>>>>> to me >>>>>>>> that it is either a sub genus or something different. Would request >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> opinion of experts. Many features resemble the genus *Nonea *including >>>>>>>> position of anthers, gynobasic very short style morphology and >>>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>>> of nutlet which I will put in a subsequent post. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/68365947-d8b4-4d1b-a45a-166a263eb8ccn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/68365947-d8b4-4d1b-a45a-166a263eb8ccn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ce955ce5-c503-42d2-ae6e-7344e51ab3ebn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ce955ce5-c503-42d2-ae6e-7344e51ab3ebn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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