Usha Di,
- "The Plant List" shows 9 entries of *Phyllanthus niruri* - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Phyllanthus+niruri - FoP has another, *Phyllanthus niruri* sensu Hook. f. - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=220010364 - FoI has two - 1) http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html 2) http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Carry%20Me%20Seed.html In addition to above, please note that - 1. According to The Plant List both *Phyllanthus niruri* var. *amarus*(Schumach. & Thonn.) Leandri<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-154455>and *Phyllanthus niruri* var. *scabrellus* (Webb) Müll.Arg.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-154463>are synonyms of *Phyllanthus amarus* Schumach. & Thonn.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-153315> 2. But, according to FoI *Phyllanthus niruri* var. *scabrellus* = *P. fraternus*<http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html> and* Phyllanthus niruri<http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Carry%20Me%20Seed.html> * var. *amarus* = *P. amarus*<http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Carry%20Me%20Seed.html> . I spent hours to obtain and grasp info on morphological features of BHUI-AMLA. Thank you very much. Regards, surajit On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 10:55 AM, ushadi Micromini < [email protected]> wrote: > Me too > Am impressed > knew you dont give up > good for you, Surajit > good for us > usha di > PS AND THANKS to Vijaya for the initial impetus > > ========== > > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:26 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >> Thank you very very very much for the endless support. >> >> Regards, >> surajit >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Vijayasankar >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the ID confirmation Surajit ji. >>> I really appreciate your keen interest and devotion. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:01 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> SORRY VIJAY SIR, >>>> >>>> I did a big mistake, took wrong interpretation of the term "terete >>>> stem". >>>> This is *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. >>>> Attaching some more new pics taken today (12/10/12) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Many many thanks Vijayasankar Ji. >>>>> >>>>> I regret that the doc is not accessible to common people. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The following paper includes keys and descriptions of both the >>>>>> species: >>>>>> A Revision of Phyllanthus (Euphorbiaceae) in the Continental United >>>>>> States <http://www.jstor.org/stable/2805721> >>>>>> Grady L. Webster >>>>>> Brittonia<http://www.jstor.org/action/showPublication?journalCode=brittonia>Vol. >>>>>> 22, No. 1 (Jan. - Mar., 1970), pp. 44-76 >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you once again Vijayasankar Ji. >>>>>>> Documents are saying that *P. niruri* L. is not found in India. >>>>>>> If i could find some morphological description of *P. niruri* L.! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Surajit ji, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please check this paper: >>>>>>>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/view/6070/3109 >>>>>>>> It answers most of your questions. As you can see, leaf character >>>>>>>> is important, but also features of flowers, fruits etc. to be >>>>>>>> considered >>>>>>>> for correct diagnosis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still think your plant is Phyllanthus amarus. But, let's hear >>>>>>>> from others too... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please also see the poster published by FRLHT...available at >>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. >>>>>>>>> & Thonn. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. niruri* L., >>>>>>>>> published by CSIR, some of those are recent publications - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539 >>>>>>>>> 2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194 >>>>>>>>> 3. without using L. or Linn. - >>>>>>>>> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *P. niruri* L. in other sites - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html >>>>>>>>> 2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri >>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group >>>>>>>>> threads, that *P. niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even though >>>>>>>>> it had been mentioned in "THE USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" ( CSIR >>>>>>>>> publication ). So, i searched more on *Phyllanthus* species - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: >>>>>>>>> Scientific Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By Ramadasan >>>>>>>>> Kuttan, K. >>>>>>>>> B. Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book also >>>>>>>>> describes *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I copy a few >>>>>>>>> words -* *".... leaf blade 5-9 x 2-4 mm, oblong, obtuse at >>>>>>>>> both ends...." = page 26 & 27 = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false >>>>>>>>> 2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in >>>>>>>>> Tiruchirappalli district. I copy a few words on *Phyllanthus >>>>>>>>> amarus* Schum. & Thonn. = ".... stem terete, hispidulous, ... >>>>>>>>> leaf tip rounded..." = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or >>>>>>>>> linear-lanceolate, green; petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or >>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong, 3-8 × 2-4.5 mm, membranous or thinly papery, base >>>>>>>>> rounded, apex obtuse or rounded and often apiculate = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>> 2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely >>>>>>>>> glabrous, foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>> 3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP = leaf-blades >>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, obtuse >>>>>>>>> or rounded at apex and base = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my species >>>>>>>>> doesn't have terete stem, not sure about apices of leaves. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both are not >>>>>>>>>> much reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more evident in my >>>>>>>>>> grass & >>>>>>>>>> *Sesbania* uploads. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nice pictures Surajit ji! >>>>>>>>>>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young Varanus! >>>>>>>>>>> Please tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus amarus. * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri because >>>>>>>>>>>> it doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which earlier >>>>>>>>>>>> called in that name are belong to (and to be called as) P. >>>>>>>>>>>> amarus >>>>>>>>>>>> *, as we all know...." = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus >>>>>>>>>>>> fraternus, but completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves smaller >>>>>>>>>>>> (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm)*, oblong...." = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ...... leaf blade oblong or >>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the >>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades >>>>>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x 1.5-5 mm*..." >>>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri Hook.f. >>>>>>>>>>>> (non Linn.), quite distinct from P. amarus in larger leaves, 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> perianth, >>>>>>>>>>>> 6-10 lobed disc*............ " = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>> 7. another group post = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>> 8. another = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>> 9. yet another = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion >>>>>>>>>>>> 10. In FoI = >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>>>>>>>>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, very >>>>>>>>>>>> common on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or more; >>>>>>>>>>>> leaves = >>>>>>>>>>>> 10mm x 5 mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. >>>>>>>>>>>> DSCN1635.jpg) >>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m. >>>>>>>>>>>> Place : Hooghly >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water >>>>>>>>>>>> monitor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor>was waiting for >>>>>>>>>>>> me! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> -- >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > > --
