Dear Surajit ji, Please check this paper: http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/view/6070/3109 It answers most of your questions. As you can see, leaf character is important, but also features of flowers, fruits etc. to be considered for correct diagnosis.
I still think your plant is Phyllanthus amarus. But, let's hear from others too... Please also see the poster published by FRLHT...available at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear Vijayasankar Ji, > > I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. & Thonn. > > I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. niruri* L., > published by CSIR, some of those are recent publications - > > 1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539 > 2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194 > 3. without using L. or Linn. - > http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400 > > *P. niruri* L. in other sites - > > 1. http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html > 2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri > 3. > > http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice > > At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group threads, that *P. > niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even though it had been mentioned in "THE > USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" ( CSIR publication ). So, i searched more on * > Phyllanthus* species - > > 1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: Scientific > Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By Ramadasan Kuttan, K. B. > Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book also describes > *Phyllanthus > amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I copy a few words -* *".... leaf blade 5-9 x > 2-4 mm, oblong, obtuse at both ends...." = page 26 & 27 = > > http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false > 2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in Tiruchirappalli > district. I copy a few words on *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. > = ".... stem terete, hispidulous, ... leaf tip rounded..." = > http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109 > > > *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in - > > 1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or linear-lanceolate, > green; petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic-oblong, 3-8 × > 2-4.5 mm, membranous or thinly papery, base rounded, apex obtuse or > rounded and often apiculate = > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 > 2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely > glabrous,foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong= > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 > 3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP = leaf-blades > elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, obtuse or > rounded at apex and base = > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 > > Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my species doesn't > have terete stem, not sure about apices of leaves. > > Regards, > > surajit > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >> Thank you very much. >> >> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both are not much >> reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more evident in my grass & * >> Sesbania* uploads. >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Nice pictures Surajit ji! >>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young Varanus! Please >>> tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus amarus. * >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Sir, >>>> >>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :- >>>> >>>> 1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri because it >>>> doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which earlier called in that >>>> name are belong to (and to be called as) P. amarus*, as we all >>>> know...." = >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion >>>> 2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but >>>> completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm)*, >>>> oblong...." = >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>> 3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ...... leaf blade oblong or >>>> elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." = >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>> 4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the >>>> elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " = >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion >>>> 5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades elliptic-oblong to >>>> elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x 1.5-5 mm*..." = >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>> 6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri Hook.f. (non >>>> Linn.), quite distinct from P. amarus in larger leaves, 6 perianth, 6-10 >>>> lobed disc*............ " = >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion >>>> 7. another group post = >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion >>>> 8. another = >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion >>>> 9. yet another = >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion >>>> 10. In FoI = >>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, very common >>>> on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or more; leaves = 10mm x 5 >>>> mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. DSCN1635.jpg) >>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m. >>>> Place : Hooghly >>>> >>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water >>>> monitor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor>was waiting for me! >>>> >>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > --
