Thanks for the ID confirmation Surajit ji. I really appreciate your keen interest and devotion.
Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:01 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > SORRY VIJAY SIR, > > I did a big mistake, took wrong interpretation of the term "terete stem". > This is *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. > Attaching some more new pics taken today (12/10/12) > > Regards, > > surajit > > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Many many thanks Vijayasankar Ji. >> >> I regret that the doc is not accessible to common people. >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Vijayasankar >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> The following paper includes keys and descriptions of both the species: >>> A Revision of Phyllanthus (Euphorbiaceae) in the Continental United >>> States <http://www.jstor.org/stable/2805721> >>> Grady L. Webster >>> Brittonia<http://www.jstor.org/action/showPublication?journalCode=brittonia>Vol. >>> 22, No. 1 (Jan. - Mar., 1970), pp. 44-76 >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you once again Vijayasankar Ji. >>>> Documents are saying that *P. niruri* L. is not found in India. >>>> If i could find some morphological description of *P. niruri* L.! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Surajit ji, >>>>> >>>>> Please check this paper: >>>>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/view/6070/3109 >>>>> It answers most of your questions. As you can see, leaf character is >>>>> important, but also features of flowers, fruits etc. to be considered for >>>>> correct diagnosis. >>>>> >>>>> I still think your plant is Phyllanthus amarus. But, let's hear from >>>>> others too... >>>>> >>>>> Please also see the poster published by FRLHT...available at >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. & >>>>>> Thonn. >>>>>> >>>>>> I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. niruri* L., >>>>>> published by CSIR, some of those are recent publications - >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539 >>>>>> 2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194 >>>>>> 3. without using L. or Linn. - >>>>>> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400 >>>>>> >>>>>> *P. niruri* L. in other sites - >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html >>>>>> 2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri >>>>>> 3. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice >>>>>> >>>>>> At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group threads, >>>>>> that *P. niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even though it had been >>>>>> mentioned in "THE USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" ( CSIR publication ). So, >>>>>> i searched more on *Phyllanthus* species - >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: >>>>>> Scientific Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By Ramadasan >>>>>> Kuttan, K. >>>>>> B. Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book also >>>>>> describes *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I copy a few words >>>>>> -* *".... leaf blade 5-9 x 2-4 mm, oblong, obtuse at both >>>>>> ends...." = page 26 & 27 = >>>>>> >>>>>> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false >>>>>> 2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in >>>>>> Tiruchirappalli district. I copy a few words on *Phyllanthus >>>>>> amarus* Schum. & Thonn. = ".... stem terete, hispidulous, ... >>>>>> leaf tip rounded..." = >>>>>> >>>>>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in - >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or linear-lanceolate, >>>>>> green; petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic-oblong, 3-8 >>>>>> × >>>>>> 2-4.5 mm, membranous or thinly papery, base rounded, apex obtuse >>>>>> or rounded and often apiculate = >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>> 2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely >>>>>> glabrous, foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong = >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>> 3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP = leaf-blades >>>>>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, obtuse >>>>>> or rounded at apex and base = >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>> >>>>>> Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my species >>>>>> doesn't have terete stem, not sure about apices of leaves. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>>>> Thank you very much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both are not >>>>>>> much reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more evident in my >>>>>>> grass & >>>>>>> *Sesbania* uploads. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nice pictures Surajit ji! >>>>>>>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young Varanus! >>>>>>>> Please tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus amarus. * >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri because it >>>>>>>>> doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which earlier called in >>>>>>>>> that name are belong to (and to be called as) P. amarus*, as >>>>>>>>> we all know...." = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion >>>>>>>>> 2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus >>>>>>>>> fraternus, but completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves smaller >>>>>>>>> (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm)*, oblong...." = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>> 3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ...... leaf blade oblong or >>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>>>> 4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the >>>>>>>>> elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion >>>>>>>>> 5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades >>>>>>>>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x 1.5-5 mm*..." >>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>>>>> 6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri Hook.f. (non >>>>>>>>> Linn.), quite distinct from P. amarus in larger leaves, 6 >>>>>>>>> perianth, 6-10 >>>>>>>>> lobed disc*............ " = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion >>>>>>>>> 7. another group post = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion >>>>>>>>> 8. another = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion >>>>>>>>> 9. yet another = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion >>>>>>>>> 10. In FoI = >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>>>>>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, very >>>>>>>>> common on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or more; leaves >>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>> 10mm x 5 mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. >>>>>>>>> DSCN1635.jpg) >>>>>>>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m. >>>>>>>>> Place : Hooghly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water >>>>>>>>> monitor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor>was waiting for me! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --
