Thank you once again Vijayasankar Ji. Documents are saying that *P. niruri* L. is not found in India. If i could find some morphological description of *P. niruri* L.!
Regards, surajit On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear Surajit ji, > > Please check this paper: > http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/view/6070/3109 > It answers most of your questions. As you can see, leaf character is > important, but also features of flowers, fruits etc. to be considered for > correct diagnosis. > > I still think your plant is Phyllanthus amarus. But, let's hear from > others too... > > Please also see the poster published by FRLHT...available at > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files > > Regards > > Vijayasankar Raman > National Center for Natural Products Research > University of Mississippi > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Vijayasankar Ji, >> >> I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. & >> Thonn. >> >> I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. niruri* L., >> published by CSIR, some of those are recent publications - >> >> 1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539 >> 2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194 >> 3. without using L. or Linn. - >> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400 >> >> *P. niruri* L. in other sites - >> >> 1. >> http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html >> 2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri >> 3. >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice >> >> At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group threads, that >> *P. niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even though it had been mentioned >> in "THE USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" ( CSIR publication ). So, i searched >> more on *Phyllanthus* species - >> >> 1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: Scientific >> Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By Ramadasan Kuttan, K. B. >> Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book also describes >> *Phyllanthus >> amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I copy a few words -* *".... leaf blade 5-9 x >> 2-4 mm, oblong, obtuse at both ends...." = page 26 & 27 = >> >> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false >> 2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in Tiruchirappalli >> district. I copy a few words on *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. >> = ".... stem terete, hispidulous, ... leaf tip rounded..." = >> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109 >> >> >> *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in - >> >> 1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or linear-lanceolate, >> green; petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic-oblong, 3-8 × >> 2-4.5 mm, membranous or thinly papery, base rounded, apex obtuse or >> rounded and often apiculate = >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >> 2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely >> glabrous,foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong= >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >> 3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP = leaf-blades >> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, obtuse or >> rounded at apex and base = >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >> >> Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my species doesn't >> have terete stem, not sure about apices of leaves. >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >>> Thank you very much. >>> >>> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both are not much >>> reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more evident in my grass & * >>> Sesbania* uploads. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Nice pictures Surajit ji! >>>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young Varanus! Please >>>> tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus amarus. * >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>> University of Mississippi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sir, >>>>> >>>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :- >>>>> >>>>> 1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri because it >>>>> doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which earlier called in that >>>>> name are belong to (and to be called as) P. amarus*, as we all >>>>> know...." = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion >>>>> 2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, >>>>> but completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm)*, >>>>> oblong...." = >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>> 3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ...... leaf blade oblong or >>>>> elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." = >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>> 4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the >>>>> elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion >>>>> 5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades elliptic-oblong >>>>> to elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x 1.5-5 mm*..." = >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>> 6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri Hook.f. (non >>>>> Linn.), quite distinct from P. amarus in larger leaves, 6 perianth, >>>>> 6-10 >>>>> lobed disc*............ " = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion >>>>> 7. another group post = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion >>>>> 8. another = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion >>>>> 9. yet another = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion >>>>> 10. In FoI = >>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, very common >>>>> on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or more; leaves = 10mm x 5 >>>>> mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. DSCN1635.jpg) >>>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m. >>>>> Place : Hooghly >>>>> >>>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water >>>>> monitor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor>was waiting for me! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --
