The following paper includes keys and descriptions of both the species: A Revision of Phyllanthus (Euphorbiaceae) in the Continental United States<http://www.jstor.org/stable/2805721> Grady L. Webster Brittonia<http://www.jstor.org/action/showPublication?journalCode=brittonia>Vol. 22, No. 1 (Jan. - Mar., 1970), pp. 44-76
Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Thank you once again Vijayasankar Ji. > Documents are saying that *P. niruri* L. is not found in India. > If i could find some morphological description of *P. niruri* L.! > > Regards, > surajit > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Surajit ji, >> >> Please check this paper: >> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/view/6070/3109 >> It answers most of your questions. As you can see, leaf character is >> important, but also features of flowers, fruits etc. to be considered for >> correct diagnosis. >> >> I still think your plant is Phyllanthus amarus. But, let's hear from >> others too... >> >> Please also see the poster published by FRLHT...available at >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files >> >> Regards >> >> Vijayasankar Raman >> National Center for Natural Products Research >> University of Mississippi >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Vijayasankar Ji, >>> >>> I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. & >>> Thonn. >>> >>> I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. niruri* L., >>> published by CSIR, some of those are recent publications - >>> >>> 1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539 >>> 2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194 >>> 3. without using L. or Linn. - >>> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400 >>> >>> *P. niruri* L. in other sites - >>> >>> 1. >>> http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html >>> 2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri >>> 3. >>> >>> http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice >>> >>> At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group threads, that >>> *P. niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even though it had been >>> mentioned in "THE USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" ( CSIR publication ). So, i >>> searched more on *Phyllanthus* species - >>> >>> 1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: Scientific >>> Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By Ramadasan Kuttan, K. B. >>> Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book also describes >>> *Phyllanthus >>> amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I copy a few words -* *".... leaf blade 5-9 >>> x 2-4 mm, oblong, obtuse at both ends...." = page 26 & 27 = >>> >>> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false >>> 2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in Tiruchirappalli >>> district. I copy a few words on *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & >>> Thonn. = ".... stem terete, hispidulous, ... leaf tip rounded..." = >>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109 >>> >>> >>> *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in - >>> >>> 1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or linear-lanceolate, >>> green; petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic-oblong, 3-8 × >>> 2-4.5 mm, membranous or thinly papery, base rounded, apex obtuse or >>> rounded and often apiculate = >>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>> 2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely >>> glabrous,foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong= >>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>> 3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP = leaf-blades >>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, obtuse or >>> rounded at apex and base = >>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>> >>> Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my species >>> doesn't have terete stem, not sure about apices of leaves. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >>>> Thank you very much. >>>> >>>> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both are not much >>>> reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more evident in my grass & * >>>> Sesbania* uploads. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nice pictures Surajit ji! >>>>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young Varanus! Please >>>>> tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus amarus. * >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :- >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri because it >>>>>> doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which earlier called in that >>>>>> name are belong to (and to be called as) P. amarus*, as we all >>>>>> know...." = >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion >>>>>> 2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, >>>>>> but completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm)*, >>>>>> oblong...." = >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>> 3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ...... leaf blade oblong or >>>>>> elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." = >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>> 4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the >>>>>> elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " = >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion >>>>>> 5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades elliptic-oblong >>>>>> to elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x 1.5-5 mm*..." = >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>> 6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri Hook.f. (non >>>>>> Linn.), quite distinct from P. amarus in larger leaves, 6 perianth, >>>>>> 6-10 >>>>>> lobed disc*............ " = >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion >>>>>> 7. another group post = >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion >>>>>> 8. another = >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion >>>>>> 9. yet another = >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion >>>>>> 10. In FoI = >>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, very >>>>>> common on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or more; leaves = >>>>>> 10mm x 5 mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. DSCN1635.jpg) >>>>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m. >>>>>> Place : Hooghly >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water >>>>>> monitor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor>was waiting for me! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --
