Hi Joe,

> FYI, there's an RFC explaining all this already: 3819

PILC is indeed a fundamental reference, and I cite it whenever possible.

Thanks - Fred
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Touch [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:58 PM
> To: Templin, Fred L; Brian E Carpenter; Alexandru Petrescu; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] About draft-baccelli-manet-multihop-communication-04
> 
> FYI, there's an RFC explaining all this already: 3819
> 
> Joe
> 
> On 1/16/2015 12:04 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> > +1
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Int-area [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian E 
> >> Carpenter
> >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:16 AM
> >> To: Alexandru Petrescu; [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Int-area] About 
> >> draft-baccelli-manet-multihop-communication-04
> >>
> >> Alex,
> >>
> >>> but to improve the layers below IP such as to have IP run unmodified.
> >>
> >> In the general case that is impossible, because the SDO that develops
> >> the lower layer isn't interested. If the lower layer is intrinsically
> >> NBMA then for sure ARP or ND+DAD will not work as designed. If the lower
> >> layer doesn't support a physical MTU of at least 1280 IPv6 will not work
> >> as designed. So in the general case both an adaptation layer and an
> >> NBMA solution are required. And as you know, there are other "Ethernet"
> >> assumptions that don't apply in a low-power wireless scenario.
> >>
> >> Of course the goal is "IP over Everything" but that isn't the same as
> >> "Everything must be like Ethernet", which you seem to imply.
> >>
> >> In fact when you read draft-baccelli-manet-multihop-communication
> >> (and imagine what its security section will say when it's been
> >> written), I think the conclusion is that a great many things have
> >> to change, not in the IP packet format, but in the ecosystem
> >> currently provided by ARP/DHCP or RA/ND/DAD/SLAAC/DHCPv6.
> >>
> >>   Brian
> >>
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