I would be +1 for something along these lines. 
Ideally Jira & Jenkins messages to go to a different list, then a periodic 
(daily?) digest summary of Jira messages to main Isis-Dev list. 

Mike Burton
(iPhone)




On 11 Dec 2011, at 21:15, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> usually commits should go to isis-commits and JIRA will get routed to 
> isis-dev. 
> 
> I don't think we have that many issues that we are confusing end-users, do 
> you?
> 
> So I'm rather +0 for it.
> 
> LieGrue,
> strub
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rafael Chaves <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Creation of an isis-users@iao mailing list
>> 
>> +1 for a users list...
>> 
>> ...but my goal is really +1 for automated messages going elsewhere.
>> 
>> I don't seek to separate committer vs. adopter discussions. I am fine with
>> that aspect of having a single list - I think that only becomes an issue in
>> very popular projects, and that is not a problem Isis has yet.
>> 
>> What I do care about is that we don't have machine generated messages in
>> the discussion list. Having a second list (for auto-generated messages
>> only) is the best way of accomplishing that IMO.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Rafael
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Dan Haywood
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>> 
>>> True that, whatever the outcome of this vote, we'll need to continue
>>> working on building the userbase.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps another way of explaining my concern: I think the vote for a users
>>> list should really only have users (non-mentors and non-committers) voting
>>> on it.  If there aren't 3 users who can be found who would like a users
>>> list, then I don't think it is yet merited.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But I think that a vote for a users list
>>> 
>>> On 11 December 2011 17:23, Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi...
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Dan Haywood
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> +0
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thinking on this a little more, my only concern is that, if we do 
>> spawn
>>>> off
>>>>> an isis-users, and then turns out to be very quiet, that this 
>> might be
>>>> more
>>>>> off-putting to would-be users than having just the single list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I'm happy to be persuaded either way...
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You have a point on your concern, but the indications now point to 
>> that
>>> we
>>>> started and still gaining more attention from users and hence putting
>>> this
>>>> traffic on its own mailing list, IMHO, should be the way to go. What 
>> can
>>>> happen after that, like having low user traffic afterwords, which is a
>>>> possibility, is something still in the future and in either way it is
>>> still
>>>> in our hands to gain more and more users.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 December 2011 16:58, Kevin Meyer - KMZ 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since I was the one to raise the initial request, I'll 
>> raise the
>>> vote!
>>>> :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As has been recently discussed on this list [2], wrt [1], 
>> there is a
>>>>> desire
>>>>>> to create an isis-users@iao mailing list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is no need to harass users interested only in *using* 
>> Isis,
>>> with
>>>>>> development autogenerated messages (JIRA, Hudson, etc), and 
>> a
>>>>>> suggestion is to use the isis-users as a way of doing this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please indicate your support or not for this proposal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please vote now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [ ] +1
>>>>>> [ ] 0
>>>>>> [ ] -1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> [1] http://bit.ly/tpl3ny
>>>>>> [2] http://isis.markmail.org/message/mx2pzz2hsvvivahq
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> - Mohammad Nour
>>>> ----
>>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must 
>> keep
>>> moving"
>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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