It is not that is confusing, it is a matter of increasing the signal-to-noise ratio. I want to be aware of the discussions. I have no interest on any of the generated messages (issues, builds, commits). I suspect others (non-committers) may feel the same.
I don't get why we would need to pollute the discussion with any automatically generated messages, even if a single message a day. Those (probably committers) interested in following commit, issue tracking or build activity closely are probably already able to opt-in for automatic notifications on an individual basis, with each one of those activity streams. My 2 cents. Cheers, Rafael On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Mike Burton <[email protected]>wrote: > I would be +1 for something along these lines. > Ideally Jira & Jenkins messages to go to a different list, then a periodic > (daily?) digest summary of Jira messages to main Isis-Dev list. > > Mike Burton > (iPhone) > > > > > On 11 Dec 2011, at 21:15, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > usually commits should go to isis-commits and JIRA will get routed to > isis-dev. > > > > I don't think we have that many issues that we are confusing end-users, > do you? > > > > So I'm rather +0 for it. > > > > LieGrue, > > strub > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Rafael Chaves <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:52 PM > >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Creation of an isis-users@iao mailing list > >> > >> +1 for a users list... > >> > >> ...but my goal is really +1 for automated messages going elsewhere. > >> > >> I don't seek to separate committer vs. adopter discussions. I am fine > with > >> that aspect of having a single list - I think that only becomes an > issue in > >> very popular projects, and that is not a problem Isis has yet. > >> > >> What I do care about is that we don't have machine generated messages in > >> the discussion list. Having a second list (for auto-generated messages > >> only) is the best way of accomplishing that IMO. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Rafael > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Dan Haywood > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >>> True that, whatever the outcome of this vote, we'll need to continue > >>> working on building the userbase. > >>> > >>> Perhaps another way of explaining my concern: I think the vote for a > users > >>> list should really only have users (non-mentors and non-committers) > voting > >>> on it. If there aren't 3 users who can be found who would like a users > >>> list, then I don't think it is yet merited. > >>> > >>> Dan > >>> > >>> > >>> But I think that a vote for a users list > >>> > >>> On 11 December 2011 17:23, Mohammad Nour El-Din < > [email protected] > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi... > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Dan Haywood > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> +0 > >>>>> > >>>>> Thinking on this a little more, my only concern is that, if we do > >> spawn > >>>> off > >>>>> an isis-users, and then turns out to be very quiet, that this > >> might be > >>>> more > >>>>> off-putting to would-be users than having just the single list. > >>>>> > >>>>> But I'm happy to be persuaded either way... > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> You have a point on your concern, but the indications now point to > >> that > >>> we > >>>> started and still gaining more attention from users and hence putting > >>> this > >>>> traffic on its own mailing list, IMHO, should be the way to go. What > >> can > >>>> happen after that, like having low user traffic afterwords, which is a > >>>> possibility, is something still in the future and in either way it is > >>> still > >>>> in our hands to gain more and more users. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 11 December 2011 16:58, Kevin Meyer - KMZ > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Since I was the one to raise the initial request, I'll > >> raise the > >>> vote! > >>>> :) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As has been recently discussed on this list [2], wrt [1], > >> there is a > >>>>> desire > >>>>>> to create an isis-users@iao mailing list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is no need to harass users interested only in *using* > >> Isis, > >>> with > >>>>>> development autogenerated messages (JIRA, Hudson, etc), and > >> a > >>>>>> suggestion is to use the isis-users as a way of doing this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please indicate your support or not for this proposal. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please vote now. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [ ] +1 > >>>>>> [ ] 0 > >>>>>> [ ] -1 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --- > >>>>>> [1] http://bit.ly/tpl3ny > >>>>>> [2] http://isis.markmail.org/message/mx2pzz2hsvvivahq > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Thanks > >>>> - Mohammad Nour > >>>> ---- > >>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must > >> keep > >>> moving" > >>>> - Albert Einstein > >>>> > >>> > >> >
