Justin,

What are you moving your customers to place of Java3D?

Thanks also for the great background info!

-RJ

Justin Couch wrote:

> Robert Jacobsen wrote:
>
> > Being a new member of this list, this is pretty disheartening news, to say the 
> > least.
> >
> > On the other hand, this could be an opportunity for the Open Source community
> > to lend a hand, working with the folks from Sun who are knowledgeable about
> > the 3D packages and go beyond 1.4.
>
> We have been trying for about the last 6 months from when we first heard
> of its demise. Suffice to say that Sun internally are being very
> schizophrenic about it. Everyone you talk to there has something
> different to say about who owns the code, or pointing out that the
> person claiming it really doesn't own it etc. Right now, everyone and
> nobody owns the code and I can guarantee you that it won't be seeing the
> light of day for 12 months at least, and I'd lay very good money that
> you'll never see any code, nor any further development. There's a few
> people internally within Sun that don't want to see it released in any
> form due to "job security". We've given up because it's pointless doing
> anything. The apple release was a blip on the radar paid for by Apple so
> they could secure a large contract. Don't expect to see much more done
> on it apart from a final release and it is not a sign that Sun are back
> actively developing Java3D.
>
> We're actively moving our customers away from Java3D, sun is doing the
> same internally. If you try to mention a project using Java3D, you get
> canned very quickly. They only want to know about JOGL projects. The
> politics is pretty nasty behind it right now and we're getting shafted
> by Sun more than anyone about this. For years we've been trying to help
> them out to promote it, doing projects with it etc, now all we get are
> really oddball emails from them and being told "you're not kewl enough
> anymore".
>
> This is really disappointing and right now I have little faith in
> anything to do with Sun and 3D graphics, particularly if Java is
> involved. BTW, did you know that SGI have declined to join the OpenGL
> Java bindings working group? Pretty sad state of affairs if you consider
> all the hoopla that the original announcement had.
>
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> Justin Couch                         http://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/
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> Author, Java 3D FAQ Maintainer                  http://www.j3d.org/
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