Not a bad idea, adding plane tickets. How much is a ticket from, say, LAX to auckland?
On Feb 19, 2:34 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: > Getting back to topic. > > Shouldn't the salary be higher to encourage someone to move? Wouldn't anyone > who moves from the states want to travel back to visit family, friends, etc? > On such a low salary, they may not be able to afford to travel. > > I'm not saying that you shouldn't take a pay cut though based on costs of > living. I left a job taking a 30% pay cut and ended up being better off > because of the costs of living. > > I'm just saying that if you want a really good programmer, and are looking > to the US, you may need to change your ideas about compensation to make it > more attractive. I have a friend in Switzerland who left the US for a great > job, but they are finding costs to be really high, and as he has a family, > it is cost prohibitive for them to fly back to the states for Christmas > visits or summer vacation. Perhaps these trips could be included as part of > the package so the job doesn't seem like a complete separation from friends > and family. > > Just my $.02... > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > The US lobbies. That's not something new zealand can change in the > > short term. If your politicians sell you and your fellow citizens > > downriver because a few lobbyers (funded by foreign funds no less) > > lean on you, then you deserve every ounce of blame you get, and more. > > > It doesn't reflect well on the US either that they let this shit > > happen, but that's a separate issue. > > > Hey, at least the pirate bay folks are kicking absolute ass in their > > court case. > > > On Feb 19, 11:18 am, Frederic Simon <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Pushing the blame on NZ politicians is quite unfair. The big guys pushing > > > (lobbying) are the RIAA and the US! > > > They are doing the same in Canada (and border control laws), and their > > ugly > > > basic idea: since we don't manage to crush MP3 copying (and get all our > > big > > > bucks back) in the US, let's have strong law all over the world and we > > get > > > back to it. > > > > Hope it will stop soon :( > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot < > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Until the NZ politicians get their collective heads unstuck from their > > > > bottoms, there is no way anybody that cares about computers should > > > > move there. You'll be treated as a criminal sooner rather than later. > > > > Which is a real shame, because NZ has one enormous perk few other > > > > countries have: You can hit jaw-droppingly good nature (glaciers you > > > > can fly to and walk on, best bungee sites in the world, best walking > > > > tracks in the world, most beautiful road I've ever seen (Te Anau to > > > > Milford), you can ski, and on the north island, which admittedly is > > > > probably the one you'd be going to and I have less experience with, > > > > all sorts of volcanic activity on par with hawa'ii, hawa'ii). The cost > > > > of living is also extremely low, so while you probably won't build up > > > > a nice savings account, the salary will allow you to do more than a > > > > salary 1.5x as big in the US or in western europe. > > > > >http://creativefreedom.org.nz/s92.html > > > > > On Feb 19, 4:57 am, Mark Derricutt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yeh, normal salaries in NZ for java stuff seems to be 60-90, 60k > > > > generally > > > > > for intermediate level - 40k would be graduate or junior (but even > > then, > > > > if > > > > > it was up to be I'd be paying a decent grad more than that). > > > > > > Rimu's also based in Cambridge, about 10-15 minutes out of Hamilton > > (I'm > > > > > sure you know the place) with quite low cost of living, but still - > > the > > > > > salary would still be the main issue for me as well. > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Steven Herod < > > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > It's the salary that's the issue for me, hard to be really, really > > > > > > smart and be offered $NZ40K-80K (that's $AU31- to $AU63K AU, or > > $US20K > > > > > > - $US40K) > > > > -- > >http://www.jfrog.org/http://freddy33.blogspot.com/http://nothingisinf... > > -- > Robert Castowww.robertcasto.com > [email protected] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
