On 13 May 2011 16:06, phil swenson <[email protected]> wrote: > Depends on your definition of "winning." As an investor, Apple is > winning. Market share wise, Windows won long ago. I don't know why a > consumer or business looking at buying a PC would care about profits > though... only as much as they don't want to buy a machine from a > company that might die. > > You also have to consider *which* market before you can quote share figures. I don't see so many people running web server farms or HPC clusters using Apple hardware. Or washing machine microcontrollers, or dedicated SatNav systems, or engine management, all of these things are computers too.
By all means, take a split of all things that use processors if you want, such that your definition includes tablets but not mobiles and laptops but not not mainframes, and then claim that Apple is doing well in that "market". You can do this if you wish, but don't pretend that your definition of market is anything but arbitrary, and seemingly chosen in Apple's favour. > 2011/5/12 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>: > > I find this pretty typical in discussions involving Apple. Whenever the > > exchanges start discussing numbers, Apple enthusiasts tend to quickly dig > in > > with a "I don't care, Apple makes tons of money which means they're > great". > > -- > > Cédric > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alexey Zinger <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> I'm not taking this little tangent too seriously, but it does seem that > >> these which-tech-is-superior discussions inevitably seem to gravitate to > an > >> eventual statement about which company makes more money. This is the > part I > >> don't get. What does market capitalization and how good a company is > doing > >> overall have to do with merits of a technology or how good a deal it > might > >> be to consumers? > >> > >> Alexey > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: work only <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:33:26 PM > >> Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Is Apple is winning the PC war? > >> > >> All I know is that the Java Posse forum hates Apple > >> > >> > >> But Apple is 3rd biggest company in the world and 2nd in the US and if > >> they only have 10% of the market then they have so much more money to > make > >> :) should buy more stock :) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Josh Berry <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Chiming in to agree with Cédric. Though, I will say I think I have a > >>> slightly different view. I will grant that Apple is likely doing > >>> better in every way than any single PC maker. I wouldn't even be > >>> shocked if they are competing on volume with the best of them. What I > >>> don't think is that they are beating them all combined. Which is > >>> something they have to do because of their unique position of being > >>> the only game in town with regards to what they sell. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "The Java Posse" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "The Java Posse" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "The Java Posse" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- Kevin Wright gtalk / msn : [email protected] <[email protected]>mail: [email protected] vibe / skype: kev.lee.wright quora: http://www.quora.com/Kevin-Wright twitter: @thecoda "My point today is that, if we wish to count lines of code, we should not regard them as "lines produced" but as "lines spent": the current conventional wisdom is so foolish as to book that count on the wrong side of the ledger" ~ Dijkstra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
