Well the title of the thread is "Is Apple is winning the PC war?" so I wasn't thinking servers, embedded, etc.
But I suppose Apple has a shot at winning the next round of the PC war again if you include tablets. Apple has a huge tablet lead right now..... On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 13 May 2011 16:06, phil swenson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Depends on your definition of "winning." As an investor, Apple is >> winning. Market share wise, Windows won long ago. I don't know why a >> consumer or business looking at buying a PC would care about profits >> though... only as much as they don't want to buy a machine from a >> company that might die. >> > > You also have to consider *which* market before you can quote share figures. > I don't see so many people running web server farms or HPC clusters using > Apple hardware. Or washing machine microcontrollers, or dedicated SatNav > systems, or engine management, all of these things are computers too. > By all means, take a split of all things that use processors if you want, > such that your definition includes tablets but not mobiles and laptops but > not not mainframes, and then claim that Apple is doing well in that > "market". > You can do this if you wish, but don't pretend that your definition of > market is anything but arbitrary, and seemingly chosen in Apple's favour. > > >> >> 2011/5/12 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>: >> > I find this pretty typical in discussions involving Apple. Whenever the >> > exchanges start discussing numbers, Apple enthusiasts tend to quickly >> > dig in >> > with a "I don't care, Apple makes tons of money which means they're >> > great". >> > -- >> > Cédric >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alexey Zinger <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm not taking this little tangent too seriously, but it does seem that >> >> these which-tech-is-superior discussions inevitably seem to gravitate >> >> to an >> >> eventual statement about which company makes more money. This is the >> >> part I >> >> don't get. What does market capitalization and how good a company is >> >> doing >> >> overall have to do with merits of a technology or how good a deal it >> >> might >> >> be to consumers? >> >> >> >> Alexey >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: work only <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:33:26 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Is Apple is winning the PC war? >> >> >> >> All I know is that the Java Posse forum hates Apple >> >> >> >> >> >> But Apple is 3rd biggest company in the world and 2nd in the US and if >> >> they only have 10% of the market then they have so much more money to >> >> make >> >> :) should buy more stock :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Josh Berry <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Chiming in to agree with Cédric. Though, I will say I think I have a >> >>> slightly different view. I will grant that Apple is likely doing >> >>> better in every way than any single PC maker. I wouldn't even be >> >>> shocked if they are competing on volume with the best of them. What I >> >>> don't think is that they are beating them all combined. 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