Hi Aaron.

Sorry to bother you again .. :) Is there any news on this issue ?

Kind regards,
Nuno

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 15:28, Nuno Sénica <nsen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi :)
>
> No worries.. take your time.
>
> Thanks
> Nuno
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 15:25, Aaron Smuts <asm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the delay.  I'm working on it, but lots of other things keep
>> coming up.  It will take a couple more weeks.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Nuno Sénica <nsen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Nuno Sénica <nsen...@gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: Remove dependency for concurrent.jar
>> > To: "JCS Users List" <jcs-users@jakarta.apache.org>
>> > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:13 PM
>> > Hi Aaron,
>> >
>> > Sorry to bother you again with this issue..
>> >
>> > Are there any news regarding this ?
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Nuno
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 16:23, Nuno Sénica <nsen...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Aaron :)
>> > >
>> > > Here I am again querying you on the status of this
>> > task.
>> > >
>> > > Did you have the chance the start it ? :) How it is
>> > going.
>> > >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > > Nuno Sénica
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:31, Nuno Sénica <nsen...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Aaron
>> > >>
>> > >> Once again thanks for your inputs..
>> > >>
>> > >> Since it is not a matter of find and replace,
>> > maybe I'll wait a couple of
>> > >> weeks so that you take on that task :)
>> > >>
>> > >> I'll poke by then just to know how the work is
>> > going.
>> > >>
>> > >> Regads and thanks a lot once again.
>> > >>
>> > >> Nuno
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 16:24, Aaron Smuts <asm...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> It's not a simple matter of find and
>> > replace.  If it was, I would have
>> > >>> done it some time back. . . .
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This is such an extensive change, it's
>> > probably best that I do it.  But
>> > >>> feel free to give it a try.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Aaron
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Aaron Smuts <asm...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > From: Aaron Smuts <asm...@yahoo.com>
>> > >>> > Subject: Re: Remove dependency for
>> > concurrent.jar
>> > >>> > To: "JCS Users List" <jcs-users@jakarta.apache.org>
>> > >>> > Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 8:21 AM
>> > >>> > In my first email, I pointed out
>> > >>> > several things that would need to be
>> > changed.  You can
>> > >>> > simply search for the util concurrent
>> > import and find them
>> > >>> > all.
>> > "EDU.oswego.cs.dl.util.concurrent"
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > ClockDaemon is used more than the poooled
>> > executor. . . .
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Yes, there is a backport for JDK
>> > 1.4.  A backport
>> > >>> > implements something available only in a
>> > new version.
>> > >>> > In this case, the backport is of the 1.5
>> > concurrent
>> > >>> > library.  This allows you to compile
>> > and run in
>> > >>> > 1.4.  But if you are running 1.5 or
>> > later, you don't
>> > >>> > need to backport jar.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > There are some subtle changes between the
>> > two.  But it
>> > >>> > should be perfectly possible to get it
>> > working in a few
>> > >>> > days.  Take a crack at it if you
>> > want.  I'll get
>> > >>> > to it in about two weeks.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Aaron
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Jeffrey Kesselman
>> > <jef...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> > wrote:
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > > From: Jeffrey Kesselman <jef...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> > > Subject: Re: Remove dependency for
>> > concurrent.jar
>> > >>> > > To: "JCS Users List" <jcs-users@jakarta.apache.org>
>> > >>> > > Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009,
>> > 8:02 AM
>> > >>> > > Well i don't know the codebase so
>> > >>> > > Aaron is your better reference
>> > there
>> > >>> > > BUT...
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Since the large majority of Doug's
>> > concurrent library
>> > >>> > got
>> > >>> > > ported as is into
>> > >>> > > the JDK, Id start by simply taking
>> > his library out of
>> > >>> > your
>> > >>> > > build path in
>> > >>> > > eclipse.  Then follow the
>> > errors and everywhere it
>> > >>> > > can't find a reference to
>> > >>> > > a concurrent utility, use's
>> > Eclipse's help to add the
>> > >>> > > proper import.
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Id imagine it cant be more then a
>> > day or two of very
>> > >>> > > mechanical work...
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Alternately, if your a perl type
>> > hacker you could try
>> > >>> > > writing a script that
>> > >>> > > would look for the string that is
>> > doug's package name
>> > >>> > in
>> > >>> > > the file and
>> > >>> > > repalce it with the JDK package.
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > JK
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:36 AM,
>> > Nuno Sénica <nsen...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> > > wrote:
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > > Hi Jeffrey and Aaron,
>> > >>> > > >
>> > >>> > > > We are currently evaluating the
>> > effort to
>> > >>> > perform
>> > >>> > > those changes.. If the
>> > >>> > > > effort is not that big, I
>> > personally, would like
>> > >>> > to
>> > >>> > > make that change and
>> > >>> > > > contribute to the community.
>> > >>> > > >
>> > >>> > > > I'll need some guideline from
>> > where to start,
>> > >>> > and
>> > >>> > > regarding that I'm
>> > >>> > > > relying
>> > >>> > > > on you guys :D
>> > >>> > > >
>> > >>> > > > Which should be the best
>> > approach to start this
>> > >>> > change
>> > >>> > > ?
>> > >>> > > >
>> > >>> > > > Regards,
>> > >>> > > > Nuno
>> > >>> > > >
>> > >>> > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 15:30,
>> > Jeffrey Kesselman
>> > >>> > > <jef...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> > > wrote:
>> > >>> > > >
>> > >>> > > > > The source is available,
>> > couldn't you go
>> > >>> > through
>> > >>> > > it and change the
>> > >>> > > > > references yourselves?
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > That seems a lot less
>> > costly then abandoning
>> > >>> > the
>> > >>> > > whole library.
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > Maybe you could even
>> > contribute those
>> > >>> > changes
>> > >>> > > back to the community...
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at
>> > 7:02 AM, Nuno
>> > >>> > Sénica
>> > >>> > > <nsen...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> > > wrote:
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > > Hi all,
>> > >>> > > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > > At the company where
>> > I work for, we
>> > >>> > have an
>> > >>> > > application which relies on
>> > >>> > > > > JCS
>> > >>> > > > > > and it has proven to
>> > be a good solution
>> > >>> > so
>> > >>> > > far. But now, we were
>> > >>> > > > informed
>> > >>> > > > > > about legal issues by
>> > using concurrent
>> > >>> > lib
>> > >>> > > and we are being instructed
>> > >>> > > > to
>> > >>> > > > > > change the caching
>> > lib.
>> > >>> > > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > > My question is if
>> > there's any plan to
>> > >>> > use
>> > >>> > > the native concurrent instead
>> > >>> > > > > of
>> > >>> > > > > > the lib that JSC
>> > depend on at the
>> > >>> > moment ?
>> > >>> > > Is so, when it is planned to
>> > >>> > > > > be
>> > >>> > > > > > available ?
>> > >>> > > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > > Thanks in advance.
>> > >>> > > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > > Regards,
>> > >>> > > > > > Nuno
>> > >>> > > > > >
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > > > --
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>> > >>> > ask
>> > >>> > > again later. ~~
>> > >>> > > > >
>> > >>> > > >
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >
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>> > >>> > > ~~
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