It's been a while since I installed eclipse simply because I hated it and
moved away from it. My experience of the litany of download options was the
same as Mic's i.e. pissed off after wasting 30 mins waiting on the wrong
download to complete.

I think we could engineer multiple options for this and they'd all be wrong
for a %age of cases, so arguing one set of %ages over another is just
moving the problem somewhere else and seems like a waste of time to me.

What's the easiest option to get started on that works for a high %age of
people? Lets get something working and then see how we can evolve it to
fill gaps.

On 1 September 2015 at 21:48, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree, I always dreaded going to eclipse.org and worrying I have just
> downloaded 300Meg of the wrong thing.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM Baptiste Mathus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 2015-09-01 20:08 GMT+02:00 Jesse Glick <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, James Nord <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Eclipse.org
>>> > provides "distributions"  you can get the basic IDE and add the
>>> plugins you
>>> > want - or you can get the Java version, or the J2EE version, or the PHP
>>> > version...
>>>
>>
>> Well, actually Eclipse is somehow backing away a bit from that model. I
>> think that indeed prepackaged versions leads to big complexity and user
>> frustration since not a lot of people will actually find the exact things
>> you need.
>>
>> And technically: downloading + installing additional things may not be
>> as-well tested and multiply combinatorials. Hence writing a /wizard/
>> (called oomph in Eclipse [1]) that works is currently a ongoing work (and
>> is already working but still needs battle testing I guess).
>>
>> [1] https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/installer.php
>> -- Baptiste
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