On 2 September 2015 at 15:04, James Nord <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lets get something working and then see how we can evolve it to fill gaps.
>>
>
> Well I can see the headlines now if you release with that in mind
>     "Jenkins, marketed as the leading CI/CD software, no longer supports
> JUnit the tool used in 99.9% of all development" <snip>out of the box
> </snip> <- cos you know journalists like to make good headlines
>

Oh come on James, this is so overly dramatic :) There'd be no shortage of
Jenkins headlines if a Journalist was so motivated and I think this would
be way down the list.

So how big an issue is this do you think:

   1. What percentage of Jenkins install locations do you expect have no
   internet connection?
   2. Of the percentage from #1, what percentage do you percentage do you
   think would involve a total newbie to Jenkins, such that they would not be
   capable of working the kinds of tactics normally employed in these kinds of
   situations (whatever they are - pre-defined archives, Juseppe etc) ?

Seems to me like this conversation has focused in on something that's only
ever going to be a problem for a fairly small group of people. It also
seems to me that, for the situation we are talking about here (no internet
etc), we should be talking about people that know what they're at (not
Jenkins newbies). If we can't make that assumption then I don't see how we
can make the assumption that these same people with limited skills are
going to be able to work any of the solutions floated above (scripts to run
on other systems etc).

For version 1 of this, can't we just document some possible solutions to
this problem and point the user to these solutions from inside the wizard
on detecting the fact that there's no internet connection? This seems easy
enough and we can test it over a period of time. If it's a big issue we'll
at least have some real data to work with.

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