+1 Tom. That's common sense, It's always useful :) That percentage of people who try to install Jenkins offline, use to know what they are doing, so a link to "Tips to install Jenkins offline" should be enough.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Tom Fennelly <tom.fenne...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 September 2015 at 15:04, James Nord <jn...@cloudbees.com> wrote: > >> Lets get something working and then see how we can evolve it to fill gaps. >>> >> >> Well I can see the headlines now if you release with that in mind >> "Jenkins, marketed as the leading CI/CD software, no longer supports >> JUnit the tool used in 99.9% of all development" <snip>out of the box >> </snip> <- cos you know journalists like to make good headlines >> > > Oh come on James, this is so overly dramatic :) There'd be no shortage of > Jenkins headlines if a Journalist was so motivated and I think this would > be way down the list. > > So how big an issue is this do you think: > > 1. What percentage of Jenkins install locations do you expect have no > internet connection? > 2. Of the percentage from #1, what percentage do you percentage do you > think would involve a total newbie to Jenkins, such that they would not be > capable of working the kinds of tactics normally employed in these kinds of > situations (whatever they are - pre-defined archives, Juseppe etc) ? > > Seems to me like this conversation has focused in on something that's only > ever going to be a problem for a fairly small group of people. It also > seems to me that, for the situation we are talking about here (no internet > etc), we should be talking about people that know what they're at (not > Jenkins newbies). If we can't make that assumption then I don't see how we > can make the assumption that these same people with limited skills are > going to be able to work any of the solutions floated above (scripts to run > on other systems etc). > > For version 1 of this, can't we just document some possible solutions to > this problem and point the user to these solutions from inside the wizard > on detecting the fact that there's no internet connection? This seems easy > enough and we can test it over a period of time. If it's a big issue we'll > at least have some real data to work with. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CA%2BbPaoKO%2BqYJ6eYZqbLcz3jX2gH0CVX%2BwZeMnyob3%3DPn%2BiqmDw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CA%2BbPaoKO%2BqYJ6eYZqbLcz3jX2gH0CVX%2BwZeMnyob3%3DPn%2BiqmDw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Antonio Muñiz Software Engineer CloudBees, Inc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAJc7kzSUcKfqawhma-1cQuW9EaaHAss9aKk0WWA7So6bxeAhRA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
