Gavin, 
I certainly empathize with what you are saying about that and agree on a need 
for a better way to help.
I am not sure a good option is available. 
Adding support like reference runs the risk of a conflict with how that list is 
curated, as you mentioned. It also semi takes the open-source ethos away, in my 
opinion. That still does not mean we are a help desk. 
I also think we need a code of conduct that lays out some cadence on what 
gitter is and is not.
I think this is a good topic for the advocacy meeting taking place on February 
13th, and I will add it to the agenda.
In the meantime, I would like you to know how much I appreciate you and the 
other volunteers who provide help day in and day out.

> On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:32 PM, 'Gavin Mogan' via Jenkins Developers 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Everyone,
> 
> As one of the few that regularly hang out in the users channels (#jenkins on 
> irc, or #jenkinsci/jenkins on gitter) I was wondering how everyone felt about 
> a central location where we can point users to for commercial support.
> 
> There's definitely some users who come in, ask straight forward questions, 
> and usually pretty easy to fix ("check what version of java", "your using the 
> wrong type of pipeline, see examples", etc) but sometimes there's definitely 
> issues that last weeks, and its fundamental understanding of what needs to be 
> done ("How do I CI?", "Whats wrong with this <paste 6 pages of stacktrace and 
> no pipeline", etc)
> 
> So how does everyone feel of a page on jenkins.io where we can go:
> "Looking for more support than the volunteers can offer? Looking to share 
> sensitive info? Need help in a short amount of time? Feel free to contact any 
> of these professional services"
> 
> I'm certainly conflicted at maintaining the curated list, or playing 
> favoritism at all, but its also frustrating when after a while of bad 
> communication you want to walk away, but they ping you, or pm you asking for 
> more help.
> 
> Gavin
> 
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