> I like the idea of pr’s. Are you also saying that the list is available
for any company to pr?

Yep, Literally "community managed list of commercial support", just like
the wiki

> I would be good with a list where every company can pr but how does a
company fleet validated. I see room for companies or supposed companies to
abuse the process and ultimately the project.

as someone (i think mark) has been saying on gitter. We have a super open
trust model. I really like that. if it does get abused, its worth
re-visiting, but for now I think its worth doing

But it can absolutely wait for the advocacy meeting

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 9:18 PM Marky Jackson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I like the idea of pr’s. Are you also saying that the list is available
> for any company to pr?
> I also think with the move to the CDF it will operate much like the CNCF
> and have certified service providers.
> I would be good with a list where every company can pr but how does a
> company fleet validated. I see room for companies or supposed companies to
> abuse the process and ultimately the project.
>
> On Jan 22, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Richard Bywater <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> This seems to be along the lines of what Oleg raised mid-last year (
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/jenkinsci-dev/-1cDktjaI6A/FRT21zTqDQAJ ).
>
> I think that there does need to be a very clear steer that the project
> itself runs on a voluntary basis and perhaps have a list of
> commercial support available but I think rather than having the list as
> curated as such it should be done in a way that commercial companies can
> list their details (and, as I said in the previous email, make sure that
> its clearly said that the Jenkins project doesn't endorse any of them).
>
> I'm guessing it should be fairly simple to create a page on jenkins.io
> and have companies provide PRs to have their company included (and, at that
> point, whomever approves the PR needs a bit of guidance about what
> information should/shouldn't be allowed to be provided by the company).
>
> Richard.
>
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 17:32, 'Gavin Mogan' via Jenkins Developers <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> As one of the few that regularly hang out in the users channels (#jenkins
>> on irc, or #jenkinsci/jenkins on gitter) I was wondering how everyone felt
>> about a central location where we can point users to for commercial support.
>>
>> There's definitely some users who come in, ask straight forward
>> questions, and usually pretty easy to fix ("check what version of java",
>> "your using the wrong type of pipeline, see examples", etc) but sometimes
>> there's definitely issues that last weeks, and its fundamental
>> understanding of what needs to be done ("How do I CI?", "Whats wrong with
>> this <paste 6 pages of stacktrace and no pipeline", etc)
>>
>> So how does everyone feel of a page on jenkins.io where we can go:
>> "Looking for more support than the volunteers can offer? Looking to share
>> sensitive info? Need help in a short amount of time? Feel free to contact
>> any of these professional services"
>>
>> I'm certainly conflicted at maintaining the curated list, or playing
>> favoritism at all, but its also frustrating when after a while of bad
>> communication you want to walk away, but they ping you, or pm you asking
>> for more help.
>>
>> Gavin
>>
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